Rant and Flames...

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize of course that RnF is not some malignant growth forcing posters to behave in a misanthropic way, right? The "cancer" is people. Honestly, if someone had breast cancer would you just cut off the whole boob?

Poor example.

Really though, I get what people are saying. The RnF section here is crap; no debate here. But again, that's not the whole board's fault. It's a handful of posters. So ban them. IP ban them and when they make sock accounts do it again. If it's more than a handful, then it's the community itself, and those asking for more civility and less random, meaningless vitriol are deluding themselves into thinking they themselves are not the gentle, cuddly minority.

Viva la RnF! We bring the truth to the masses through networking, honest journalism, and felching.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize of course that RnF is not some malignant growth forcing posters to behave in a misanthropic way, right? The "cancer" is people. Honestly, if someone had breast cancer would you just cut off the whole boob?

Poor example.

Really though, I get what people are saying. The RnF section here is crap; no debate here. But again, that's not the whole board's fault. It's a handful of posters. So ban them. IP ban them and when they make sock accounts do it again. If it's more than a handful, then it's the community itself, and those asking for more civility and less random, meaningless vitriol are deluding themselves into thinking they themselves are not the gentle, cuddly minority.

I agree with you, it is a handful of people and not R&F itself. However, the existence of R&F (in its present form) implies acceptance of, and even encourages, that behavior. Maybe we can call it nicotine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So yeah, IF the problem posters could be really and truly banned from the forums (repeatedly and regularly as necessary), THEN, the existence of an R&F in and of itself wouldn't be a problem.

But I still like your idea of removing its posts from the "Recent Threads" section on the home page ASAP (as a temporary fix until the bans can start making a real impact).

[Mcbard]

Rants and Flames isn't the problem, the people that post there are. Rants and Flames is just the effect. Stupid people saying stupid shit. Not worth losing developers and players over Rogean, I agree!

[toddfx]

I 100% agree and for months have felt R&F is a stain on our community.

R&F is just glorifying the work of trolls, and that has boiled over into the rest of the forum and community long ago.

To be honest I pretty much stopped visiting P99 forums for quite a few months because I couldn't stand the tone that goes on around here. I attribute that to R&F folk. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Labyrrinth]

Silky Venom also had a pretty pervasive RnF forums, aptly titled "The Volcano"

A lot of the people didn't like that forum, didn't even want to acknowledge it's existence. A lot of others felt it was needed. What we ended up doing, which really did help appease both sides was we put it near the very bottom of the forums list, with a warning, and probably the most important was we suppresed the last post "at-a-glance" view.

It's an idea that may work well here too.

[porigromus]

Were the devs correct in all their decisions? I don't know. What I do know is they offer us for free the absolutely best classic server around. This is what we all wanted for years and we have it. Don't run off the great people who made it happen for us. Thank you to all who do this for us. Many of us appreciate the hard work.

Yes a chunk of the population was cheating. It also happened in the live game but I still want the game to be here to play. SOE took it away by destroying it, please don't talk the developers into doing it here. Thanks.

[Hagglebaron]

If you have some ranting and/or flaming to do, head on into rants and flames. If you are horrified and offended by what goes on in there, use the opt out option.

What is so hard about this concept?

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by Hagglebaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have some ranting and/or flaming to do, head on into rants and flames. If you are horrified and offended by what goes on in there, use the opt out option.

What is so hard about this concept?

apparently it scares away newbies.

which we've provided an answer to, hide recent post and put it at the bottom of the forum list. hell, put a warning up or something

[mitic]

we need a new rule for r&f:

no posts about devs, even if it comes from another dev.

[Salty]

yay!!!!!!!!!!