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Old 04-04-2010, 06:26 AM
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Enchanters were always able to charm effectively. The formulas may not be exactly the same, but the effectiveness is close currently. The reason more enchanters did not was because they didn't have 255 charisma for the most part, and without that, charm IS useless. This is one (of MANY) examples of using non-classic strategy within a classic ruleset to accomplish things that were not accomplished during the classic period. We all know more now, older & wiser etc.

There's an old bull and a young bull grazing on the pasture. The young bull looks down the way a bit and sees a bunch of hot young heifers grazing with no bulls around. Excitedly, he exclaims: "Hey old bull, let's run down there and fuck one of those cows!" The old bull snickers softly and he languidly starts walking towards the females, saying: "No boy. Let's walk down, and fuck them all."

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Old 04-04-2010, 07:13 AM
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Enchanters were always able to charm effectively. The formulas may not be exactly the same, but the effectiveness is close currently. The reason more enchanters did not was because they didn't have 255 charisma for the most part, and without that, charm IS useless.
What server were you playing on? This statement is utter bullshit. 255 CHA was easy as hell to get back in the day, and I can assure you Enchanters were testing/messing/parsing numbers back then as much as they are now. You don't even need 255 CHA to effectively hold a planar mob anyways. 240 CHA with tash/malo on a blue and it won't break. Buff it/haste/profit. Charm on this server is OP/Broken. It's easy mode ridiculous how broken and OP it is. Most enchanters back in the day even had CHA sets and INT sets. The reason why enchanters didn't bother with 255 CHA after awhile is because charm was completely chaotic and unstable. It never held for very long. That was the intent. Otherwise, it trivializes content which is EXACTLY what has happened here. No dev in his right mind professionally designing a game would allow something like this current form of charm to exist in their game. You're fucking dreaming pal.

Variance IS the problem. The solution is to REMOVE IT. Variance is not classic. Variance allows the one guild full of weirdos to sit and track every zone with afk druids 24/7 and not have to pick/choose which mobs to kill. As of now they just barge into any zone, breath down your neck or leap frog you. Seriously, at least pay your lackeys minimum wage for this shit.

The way it worked back in the day, guilds were fairly diplomatic. If a guild was in fear clearing and draco or CT was due, people didn't bother them. They were allowed to raid in peace. Here there are 2-3 afk druids from a few guilds parked at your raid. It's stupid. As soon as a boss pops, the phones are ringing and waking slumbering psychopaths from their dreams of 10 year content glory to come slay the dragon with the magic sword. It's silly and WEIRD to be like this over this shit. It's fucking embarrassing and disturbing. This is a fucking video game people, but to one group of weirdos it has become a sickness.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:54 PM
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Lol you have no idea what you're talking about. I bet you were level 40 in Velious.
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:01 PM
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I agree that killing maestro and draco with charmed pets is lame but hey... it works! So it will be done.
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:27 PM
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What server were you playing on? This statement is utter bullshit. 255 CHA was easy as hell to get back in the day, and I can assure you Enchanters were testing/messing/parsing numbers back then as much as they are now. You don't even need 255 CHA to effectively hold a planar mob anyways. 240 CHA with tash/malo on a blue and it won't break. Buff it/haste/profit. Charm on this server is OP/Broken. It's easy mode ridiculous how broken and OP it is. Most enchanters back in the day even had CHA sets and INT sets. The reason why enchanters didn't bother with 255 CHA after awhile is because charm was completely chaotic and unstable. It never held for very long. That was the intent. Otherwise, it trivializes content which is EXACTLY what has happened here. No dev in his right mind professionally designing a game would allow something like this current form of charm to exist in their game. You're fucking dreaming pal.

Variance IS the problem. The solution is to REMOVE IT. Variance is not classic. Variance allows the one guild full of weirdos to sit and track every zone with afk druids 24/7 and not have to pick/choose which mobs to kill. As of now they just barge into any zone, breath down your neck or leap frog you. Seriously, at least pay your lackeys minimum wage for this shit.

The way it worked back in the day, guilds were fairly diplomatic. If a guild was in fear clearing and draco or CT was due, people didn't bother them. They were allowed to raid in peace. Here there are 2-3 afk druids from a few guilds parked at your raid. It's stupid. As soon as a boss pops, the phones are ringing and waking slumbering psychopaths from their dreams of 10 year content glory to come slay the dragon with the magic sword. It's silly and WEIRD to be like this over this shit. It's fucking embarrassing and disturbing. This is a fucking video game people, but to one group of weirdos it has become a sickness.
you mad bro?
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:30 PM
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What server were you playing on? This statement is utter bullshit. 255 CHA was easy as hell to get back in the day, and I can assure you Enchanters were testing/messing/parsing numbers back then as much as they are now. You don't even need 255 CHA to effectively hold a planar mob anyways. 240 CHA with tash/malo on a blue and it won't break. Buff it/haste/profit. Charm on this server is OP/Broken. It's easy mode ridiculous how broken and OP it is. Most enchanters back in the day even had CHA sets and INT sets. The reason why enchanters didn't bother with 255 CHA after awhile is because charm was completely chaotic and unstable. It never held for very long. That was the intent. Otherwise, it trivializes content which is EXACTLY what has happened here. No dev in his right mind professionally designing a game would allow something like this current form of charm to exist in their game. You're fucking dreaming pal.

Variance IS the problem. The solution is to REMOVE IT. Variance is not classic. Variance allows the one guild full of weirdos to sit and track every zone with afk druids 24/7 and not have to pick/choose which mobs to kill. As of now they just barge into any zone, breath down your neck or leap frog you. Seriously, at least pay your lackeys minimum wage for this shit.

The way it worked back in the day, guilds were fairly diplomatic. If a guild was in fear clearing and draco or CT was due, people didn't bother them. They were allowed to raid in peace. Here there are 2-3 afk druids from a few guilds parked at your raid. It's stupid. As soon as a boss pops, the phones are ringing and waking slumbering psychopaths from their dreams of 10 year content glory to come slay the dragon with the magic sword. It's silly and WEIRD to be like this over this shit. It's fucking embarrassing and disturbing. This is a fucking video game people, but to one group of weirdos it has become a sickness.
You sound kinda mad, bro.
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:30 PM
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you mad bro?
I swear I didn't read this before I posted ^. lol.
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:51 PM
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Who is this guy anyways? I remember him crying up a storm when Charm was getting fixed I think.
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:48 PM
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Stop gaslighting shit and trolling up this thread with your asshattery

Seems like the only one Trolling and asshattery as you put it is you. Have you made a single point yet other then spew off unsupported assumptions?
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:27 PM
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Seems like the only one Trolling and asshattery as you put it is you. Have you made a single point yet other then spew off unsupported assumptions?
This.

Nice wtfpwnage Shamaeso!
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