Exp Bonus

[Nedala]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So here we are, over at Rogean's house for dinner. He's planning on cookin up some burgers on the grill for everyone to eat. He's got tons of ground beef, all nice and seasoned up and formed into patties. Just as he's about to toss them on the grill an Erudite with red shoes and gold teeth runs up and knocks the tray of burgers out of Rogean's hands and into a giant pile of dogshit before disappearing off somewhere to rape halflings and such... There is no way the burgers can be salvaged and everyone is upset.

So Rogean being the nice guy that he is, says he's just gonna run up to the store and grab some more meat if everyone can just chill for a second. Most all of the guests are cool with this and place the blame solely on the Erudite with red shoes and gold teeth where it belongs. So Rogean takes off for the store to get more meat while the guests patiently chill out and talk about random topics; such as how having conversations with people not in your immediate vicinity is bullshit and should be outlawed.

When he gets to the store Rogean is like, "You know what? Everyone was being so nice about this, to hell with burgers, it's time for some serious business steak! I'll make the wait worth their while!". So while he didn't have to Rogean purchases a bunch of steaks and whistling happily returns home expecting his guests to be overjoyed.

He gets into the kitchen, busts out some herbs and spices and announces there will soon be steak for all. A few of the guests seem excited but for the most part the rest seem a bit sullen. Thinking it a bit weird but not knowing what to do Rogean heads back to the grill and starts cooking up the steaks.

Before the first steak can even safely be called "rare" the sullon guests line up and approach Rogean one by one... "I really wanted burgers...", "Seriously, I am not used to food this expensive my life will be ruined", "If god wanted me to eat steak he would have had Obama give me a better job than head fry cook at the local McDonalds...", "What were you thinking? You can't promise burgers then just hand out steak!", "Steak is not classic..."

Distraught and unsure what to do and hurt by how ungrateful his guests are Rogean ushers everyone back in the house, turns on the gas, waits a bit while the guests mill about still looking sullon, and then strikes a match blowing himself and everyone to bits.

The world was a better place thanks to Rogean's brave sacrifice.

Yay!

Awesome post; poor rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y all should be quiet now and appreciate the present he made. Even if you absolutely hate it, its just a week it wont stay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[JaVeDK]

Jilnea and others you need to take it easy, stop jumping to conclusions and actually try reading what people post.

I haven't seen anyone yet whine or bitch about the 50% exp bonus. People are just in disagreement with the idea and expressing their opinions, and in a pretty mature and respectful manner I might add. No one is ungrateful, and everyone appreciate all the hard work done by Rogean and his team.

If anyone here is bitching and acting less than civil it's you and some of the other pro-exp bonus people. You need to understand that people disagreeing with you aren't necessarily whining, wrong or idiots, and their point of view - if expressed politely - deserves as much respect as your opinion does, and not ridicule or scorn.

[ssyrax]

Wow, JaVeDK Beat me to the punch. Damn you! I am not in support of the bonus exp, it does not mean I am any less grateful of the exp week. I fully support Rogean and Nilbog and Secrets and everyone else involved in running this server, I LOOOOOVE this server. That doesn't mean I am going to agree 100% with everything they do. Yes I am lvl 50, No it really doesn't effect me, I just don't want it to be the first step on a slippery slope. I think they made a good judgement call by making it only 50% and not double, I think they made a bad judgement call on the length of time they are implementing it for. Would it make me quit? No. Would it make me dislike the server? No. But I do not agree with it. If nobody got ahead during the last week, I don't see why its necessary....

To those that say its a thankyou for standing by them, thats ridiculous imo. If you like the game you are going to stick around, you aren't sticking around to make the dev's feel better, you are sticking around because YOU WANT TO. I got by for years without EQ, 1 week won't kill me.

[Isphet]

I think everyone should take their 50% XP bonus and be glad that Rogean isn't making everyone Halflings for the week.

[ssyrax]

Originally Posted by Isphet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think everyone should take their 50% XP bonus and be glad that Rogean isn't making everyone Halflings for the week.

LOL! Touche!

[jilena]

Originally Posted by JaVeDK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jilnea and others you need to take it easy, stop jumping to conclusions and actually try reading what people post.

I haven't seen anyone yet whine or bitch about the 50% exp bonus. People are just in disagreement with the idea and expressing their opinions, and in a pretty mature and respectful manner I might add. No one is ungrateful, and everyone appreciate all the hard work done by Rogean and his team.

If anyone here is bitching and acting less than civil it's you and some of the other pro-exp bonus people. You need to understand that people disagreeing with you aren't necessarily whining, wrong or idiots, and their point of view - if expressed politely - deserves as much respect as your opinion does, and not ridicule or scorn.

Some random quotes:

It would be dumb if they put in a bonus for a week. All servers on live would go down all the time and no one got an exp bonus. People can wipe their tears and deal with it. Shit happens move on, don't ask for hand outs.

Why not just give everyone 10k or the choice between a manastone, Rubi BP or a DE mask? I think this is silly, and it cheapens the experience and the essence of classical EQ.

Agree... everyone is out the time, so we've lost nothing, no need to be re-imbursed, when it was not the Devs fault... Suck it up and move on.

I haven't played a single bit yet on this server, because I only found out about it during this downtime period. That said, an XP bonus for a week is just stupid.

I'm sure The GMs/Devs/PJ99 team all knew people were going to gripe about the 50% exp bonus. They were smart enough to come up with the best classic EMU so far, so I'm sure that unlike you 2, and many others, they are smart enough to realize that not everybody thinks the same way, hence people are going to have different views on things, which of course will lead to complaints. It's human nature. We like to complain. Get the fuck over it.

I am not saying that every post that disagrees with the idea is insulting but...yeah...

Perhaps I was simply raised differently than some of you. When someone does something nice for me even if it isn't exactly what I want, and assuming it doesn't hurt me in any serious way I smile and say thank you and go about my business. Please tell me that 50% more exp for a whole 7 days is seriously going to ruin Project 1999 for anyone. It isn't. I don't care one way or the other, I have no issues levelling as slowly or as quickly as I want.

Just some of the posts seem a bit ungrateful and/or rude *shrug*

[mitic]

i have the solution!

make exp pots / 24h duration each .. pots being rejected by "classic ppl" will be given to me since i came up with this brilliant idea

would be a win win for everyone!

discuss

[JaVeDK]

I don't really think the gift analogy works very well here.

It's more like this:

Due to a nation wide power surge, no one is able to work for a week. During that week food and utilities were free too, so no one actually lost anything, but instead gained some time to spend with their loved ones, or however they chose.

Now to "make up for this" the President announces that for the following week no work will be taxed. You think "that's nice for me". But perhaps it's not very fiscally responsible, or the best idea for the government or country as a whole, if you look at the big picture. You might have voted for the President, and like him and his policies, but you can still disagree with this idea, and try to make your opinion heard. That is not the oposite of grattitude.

Other people - some who might have legitimate reasons to want this, and some who just wants whatever they can get for selfish reasons - will oppose you. They can do this by either arguing in a civilized manner, offering their viewpoints and valid arguments trying to persuade you, or they can try to miscredit and slander you with personal attacks, twisting your words trying to compromise your integrity.

As you might have guessed, I'm not a big fan of the latter.

Now some have come forth with very good points:

Originally Posted by Barneystinson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...they might be doing it to make up for all the deaths that occurred due to lag. I doubt they want to have to go through and rez everyone.

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As this idea was proposed by he who is bound to keep the server as classic as he can, there's likely a reason this has to the benefit of the server's mission. And that is this: they're trying to keep the server's schedule on track.

Let's say posky was coming out on april 25th. Level 40 people just lost 2 weeks of leveling to 46. To be fair to those people (and others for whatever other reasons), the timeline would have to be delayed 2 weeks for the lost time. With this exp bonus, the timelost in the timeline is made up for (enough, at least, to warrant not pushing back the timeline).

I was never really upset about the exp penalty - I just didn't agree with it, and was/am slightly worried at what it might lead to (no I am not lvl 50, and yes I will be playing next week with or without the bonus, because just like everyone else I love this project and I missed playing). The arguments above partially convinced me, that there might be legitimate reasons for a bonus, though I still don't think it should be for more than a few days. That's what intelligent debate is about.

All the flames and insults from people who wanted the bonus however, did nothing but make themselves look like complete assholes. Good job.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have the solution!

make exp pots / 24h duration each .. pots being rejected by "classic ppl" will be given to me since i came up with this brilliant idea

would be a win win for everyone!

discuss

I was actually thinking of exp potions as well (NO TRADE and LORE of course).
Only flaw with that idea is that you loose your exp bonus as soon as you die.

A way around that would be to place an unkillable NPC in each city that can hand them out to those that want them. But to be honest that's making an aweful lot of work for the devs and I don't see this as being such a huge deal.

The bonus isn't even as much as a full group exp bonus (which is like double normal exp). If anything the exp is comparable to grouping in Kedge Keep.

People be actin' crazy!

[Tudana]

Originally Posted by Agaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is actually the reason I think it's a poor reason to have. Not everyone is going to be able to take advantage of a set week fairly. Everyone suffers, yet some will capitalize, and some will get screwed due to playing schedule. Set the exp bonus on a toon's played time instead, or don't do it at all imo.

I had my week vacation planned welll before any announcement of a bonus exp week, hell I had planned before the DDOS attack.

Either with or without a exp bonus I was going on Vacation at the EverQuest Fantasy Island!