Idea to stop all the fighting - Page 7

Autotune · #61 03-13-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right. You were the last guild there, you trained (sorry PULLED) 30 mobs and inny on everyone. Of course TMO was entitled to that kill right?

I'm not salty I'm just shocked about the state of the endgame. Y'all have been at this bullshit for so long that you're desensitized. I'll let you know when it doesn't seem crazy to me anymore.

it wouldn't have been pulled on you if you didn't attack or move.

I'm saying, if you're standing in the street trying to catch a bus, you probably want to get out of the way of the bus that isn't stopping for you.

Yes we were the last guild there. When we showed up, both BDA/VD had already wiped or were CRing at the entrance. We started getting pulled on by VD at the entrance and were having to kill some of their "dropped" mobs. So we moved out, you also moved out to the bottom of the ramp. A VD rogue set off Inny's DT and it appeared VD wasn't pulling, so we did. After the initial pull when inny was still on the top of the ramp, we made sure to tag him again with other members, he got to the bottom of the ramp and TMO and BDA both attacked inny. Zeelot then got DT'd and social aggro split to people who had less aggro than him.

IF you were on the aggro, you got trained because of your or your guild members choices. You could have simply moved and let the pulling guild handle their pull/mob. You instead helped kill Inny and even helped break some mezzes from our enchanters.

So while we showed up last, it's not like you had just cleared all of hate and was standing out side his room and we brought mobs from the other side to train on you while we pulled inny away from you. Paint yourselves the victim as if you couldn't have handled things differently if you want.

Metallikus · #62 03-13-2012, 12:29 PM

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14667

"Q: What if our raid is disrupted? What if our raid interferes with another raid?
A: Any non-consensual disturbance or meddling from a raid which leads to another raid being disrupted will result in very harsh punishments. Anyone involved in disruptions will be banned for 1 week with possible action against their guild's leadership. Second offenses will be 2 weeks. Further offenses will be permanent. It is the responsibility of the raid leaders to control their members. We strongly suggest that you avoid other raids while in a zone."

The plain and simple fact is your raid was disrupted non-consensually by TMO when they trained 30 mobs thru your camp in order to get FTE on Inny.

TMO has gotten away with so many raid disruptions that it is now standard operating procedure.

Autotune · #63 03-13-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14667

"Q: What if our raid is disrupted? What if our raid interferes with another raid?
A: Any non-consensual disturbance or meddling from a raid which leads to another raid being disrupted will result in very harsh punishments. Anyone involved in disruptions will be banned for 1 week with possible action against their guild's leadership. Second offenses will be 2 weeks. Further offenses will be permanent. It is the responsibility of the raid leaders to control their members. We strongly suggest that you avoid other raids while in a zone."

The plain and simple fact is your raid was disrupted non-consensually by TMO when they trained 30 mobs thru your camp in order to get FTE on Inny.

TMO has gotten away with so many raid disruptions that it is now standard operating procedure.

Aye, it's now standard practice to just run in the way and die to things instead of preserving ones own health.

Instead of moving when you've been beaten, you should run and get in the way and become collateral damage. +10 points if you get fraps of it and another 100+ dkp if you can manage to get the opposing guild raid suspended with it.

Thana8088 · #64 03-13-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Catterine, let's be friends. I know you're mean to me because you have a crush on me.

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Metallikus · #65 03-13-2012, 12:38 PM

Why would you steamroll over BDA and wipe them for Inny when you are already getting self proclaimed two trakanons, two VSs, 12 VP dragons, CT, ect this day? Selfish clowns with nothing better to do than grief a guild that is competing fairly for a god kill?

arsenalpow · #66 03-13-2012, 12:38 PM

I think a more accurate comparison is that BDA/VD/TMO were in a parade proceeding down mainstreet, then TMO decided that they were more important and diverted traffic onto the parade route because it suited them. Fuck everybody else. Just admit you're inconsiderate, no need to sugarcoat it. It's all about the pixels baby.

Autotune · #67 03-13-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a more accurate comparison is that BDA/VD/TMO were in a parade proceeding down mainstreet, then TMO decided that they were more important and diverted traffic onto the parade route because it suited them. Fuck everybody else. Just admit you're inconsiderate, no need to sugarcoat it. It's all about the pixels baby.

we didn't divert the traffic, you (your guild) did.

Autotune · #68 03-13-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you steamroll over BDA and wipe them for Inny when you are already getting self proclaimed two trakanons, two VSs, 12 VP dragons, CT, ect this day? Selfish clowns with nothing better to do than grief a guild that is competing fairly for a god kill?

We only pulled it because we thought VD was. There is your answer.

Metallikus · #69 03-13-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We only pulled it because we thought VD was. There is your answer.

your guild wasn't in position

you panicked because you thought VD was going to pull, so you tagged it and trained BDA with everything in the room?

arsenalpow · #70 03-13-2012, 12:49 PM

You could have engaged at the top of the ramp, or in his room, yet you chose the bottom of the ramp where two other guilds were sitting. All 3 guilds were competing for same mob yet you decided to make camp on top of everyone.

If I'm sitting at a table with Sanluen, coldblooded, and Starie (it's a double date!) and you walk up with Jeremy and say "hey we're bringing a group to sit here, you should move" how is that kosher?

Right now the status quo is train the world, get FTE with pets and eyes, everyone else be damned, just get the fuck out of our way. This is acceptable because it's the letter of the law, but every raiding guild is miserable under this ruleset. I know you can't enjoy this shitstorm. You stepped up and found a ragefire solution, let's work on better rules of engagement because this is retarded.