Tip your Porter

[Danyelle]

Depends on the porter (is he/she a generous person or a fuckhat?), your level, the port destination (is it a simple location or somewhere like on Kunark?) and the plat you have.

It's also a donation, not Wal-Mart, so there's no set price ;P

Let me give a few examples. I have always donated for ports as well. Here's how my pricing ranges typically work.

If the destination is a port on Antonica, Odus or Faydwer thats generally 15 plat. If it's Kunark it's typically 20-25.
If the guy is nice and doesn't ask for anything that's an additional 5-10 plat tacked onto the donation. If he's a jackass and demands plat upfront I usually cut the entire donation down to 5-10 plat to spite him.
If I'm level 20 or lower i keep it at about 10-15 plat. level 20-40 I keep it at about 20-25 plat. level 40+ I donate 30-40 plat per port

It scales from there. This is, of course, just how i make my donations and isn't something you necessarily have to follow.

EDIT: oh I forgot a variable too. If you're evil and the port is to NK I usually tack on a couple plat for the invis. I also tack on extra plat if he/she offers SoW with the port. If you're on a CR this may affect prices as well depending on whether the plat is on your body or not.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by Jakob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is considered a typical tip amount given the level of the person getting ported?

Well, according to all of these ballers in this thread, 500pp+ since "Druids can make more per hour killing sea furies in OOT."

My argument? It's a whole lot less work porting strangers around IMO.

Originally Posted by Yanomamo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone already said this, but what you need to do is carry Peridots. A stack of peridots is essentially 20 10p chips which weigh 0.1

Screw monk only, I'm going to start doing this. My TSK fat ass is already pushing it to the limit (LIMIT!) with plate armor. Fuck carrying around a bunch of coins.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy shit this formula is complex

lol

Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the destination is a port on Antonica, Odus or Faydwer thats generally 15 plat.

I always thought ports to Odus were free, but the return trip was 1k?

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YouseewhatIdidthere?

[Kassel]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Donation: a voluntary gift.
An optional contribution to a charitable cause or fund.



Then they should charge or not complain, end of discussion.



Actually that's what you're doing except without taking into account common sense.

Here, let me fix this for you:
"Porting for 2 plat for each level you've gained"

Done.

If someone CHOOSES not to pay an OPTIONAL fee, they have done nothing wrong and you have zero right to complain.
The prosecution rests sir.

1) Porting for dontations

When you do something FOR a donation, you are implying a donation is required, thus removing the volunatry aspect of it. A fee is required but the specific amount of the fee is variable based on many factors.

2) Porting ! Donations accepted.

If you do something and advertise that donations are acepted but not required, this reinstates the voluntary aspect of the arangment and you get what you get if people feel they want to donate.

- When people use the word "FOR" infront of donations it changes the meaning, it implies the donation is consideration for the exhange of time/mana (the port).



What i do on my druid (or did rather, i dont play him much anymore) was advertise that i was porting (no comment on donations) People pay what they pay. I cancel trade for lowbies/CR etc... I think i have had like 3 ppl stiff me in 15 months. oh well !

[Sickle]

50-100 PP per port. EC to EJ 150-200 pp since it involves running to KC.


TIP YOUR PORTER! Its the cool thing to do

[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) Porting for dontations
When you do something FOR a donation, you are implying a donation is required, thus removing the volunatry aspect of it. A fee is required but the specific amount of the fee is variable based on many factors.
2) Porting ! Donations accepted.
If you do something and advertise that donations are acepted but not required, this reinstates the voluntary aspect of the arangment and you get what you get if people feel they want to donate.

Donations, by definition, are not obligatory, regardless of people's anti-pedantic ways.

Just set up a price if you expect people to pay you for something you're advertising as free.
I would never pay anyone for a service they are offering me for free.

Why does this concept confuse so many people?

[mefdinkins]

I'm a 36 druid now and played a druid in classic - here are my thoughts. I have never advertised 'porting for donations'. If I'm leaving a zone soon I might ask if anyone needs a port out and I play without anon on usually, so I get the occasional tell and I respond to the occasional /ooc looking for port.

I never ask for an amount or charge a fee, if someone says how much I say feel free to tip if you like. For people wondering if they should tip or how much -- my porting situations tend to fall into a few categories.

1) I never accept any tips from lowbies with obviously welfare gear and I never accept money from friends, guildies, group members.

2) If an individual hooks me up with 100p, I will always be willing to do a favor for him next time.

3) If an individual is on a CR or explains why they have no plat (ei: monk or something) I don't judge them or care.

4) If an individual who is decked out in ridiculous gear and level 60 requests a port and tips me 5p, I do feel slighted though.

5) If I'm making a huge sacrifice - like risking losing my camp or going to have to make a huge run to get back, I will politely refuse or let the portee know and see if they are willing to compensate me for that.

All in all, I accept the 'tip if you like' approach at my own risk. All in all, it's free plat - 20-50p seems about average and is great in my opinion for higher level characters, sometimes I get more, sometimes less.

TLDR: - I'm just saying what everyone else did.

[Kassel]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Donations, by definition, are not obligatory, regardless of people's anti-pedantic ways.

Just set up a price if you expect people to pay you for something you're advertising as free.
I would never pay anyone for a service they are offering me for free.

Why does this concept confuse so many people?

I understand your point, my position is that a donation is no longer voluntary when the provider has advised his client that the port is conditional based on a required donation.

[the best]

1pp per level or free if you are naked, even if you want to undress in front of me.

[webrunner5]

I am not against people giving a Porter a tip. I always tip unless it is a CR, and I write down the persons name and find them later and give them a tip in game.

And on live I was a KeI Whore in PoK. Made tons of plat. Lots of it. But I NEVER, NEVER asked for a donation or set a price. If someone gave me 500 plat or no plat well that was that. This is a game, we are suppose to be having fun lol. I just don't like the "Donations accepted but not required" and Porting to "everywhere" shit for 50 plat crap.

Like no one but a Druid has to pay for spells? Pet classes have to pay for spells and pet casting thingy's, and Clerics buying Peridots etc.

Just stop the I WANT money to do you a favor. That is all. I will give you money, just stop begging for it!!