If you believe in god, you're an idiot... - Page 71

Alawen Everywhere · #**701** 02-02-2011, 01:54 AM

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Let's look at the logical form, shall we!

Human are a very inbred form compared to the other great apes

therefore

God created Adam and Eve.

What do we have to connect that conclusion to the premise? Well, the premise does include humans and the conclusion includes Adam and Eve, two hypothetical humans. The premise discusses the genetic diversity within the human genome as compared to our closest related species. The conclusion then somehow arrives at a supernatural origin for our species.

Given that it is a struggle to come up with even the most highly speculative reasoning to connect the premise with the conclusion, this is the fallacy of non sequitur, i.e. "it does not follow." I suggest that RocketMoose's rhetoric is fallacious, but given his good manners I will decline to make derogatory statements about his intellect.

Wow, could I have misquoted myself any worse? That should be "Humans are a very inbred species when compared to the other great apes."

Hauling · #**702** 02-02-2011, 02:20 AM

Thanks again, it's been a long time since I've taken logic and I forgot most of the terms of things, but I think I can still pick out an illogical statement.

The thing Rocketmoose isn't doing is looking at all the facts. He's cherry picking just the one from your explanation to support his argument and anyone can do that to support any ridiculous claim. I can just as easily say the south pole is cold therefore it's made of ice cream.

chtulu · #**703** 02-02-2011, 02:29 AM

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Thanks again, it's been a long time since I've taken logic and I forgot most of the terms of things, but I think I can still pick out an illogical statement.

The thing Rocketmoose isn't doing is looking at all the facts. He's cherry picking just the one from your explanation to support his argument and anyone can do that to support any ridiculous claim. I can just as easily say the south pole is cold therefore it's made of ice cream.

Cherry picking, ad hominems, and circular logic is what people of beliefs are all about.

Alawen Everywhere · #**704** 02-02-2011, 02:49 AM

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Cherry picking, ad hominems, and circular logic is what people of beliefs are all about.

I think RocketMoose has been very deliberate to not engage in personal attacks, although some might be offended by the concern for your immortal soul angle fairly common to religious fundamentalists.

My biggest problem with the Judeo-Christian-Moslem cults is that I suspect eventually one of them is going to launch the bombs in order to help the apocalypse along.

Hauling · #**705** 02-02-2011, 02:52 AM

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I'd like to take this time to congratulate myself on this thread.

Kudos, it's a fun thread.

rachel · #**706** 02-02-2011, 06:13 AM

I think i'm a little off the current subjects but,

They did just prove how the universe was created like 8 months ago ? They are still working on all the fine details. But the telescope images of the past of the universe are pretty convincing. I don't know how they are able to look at the past of the universe, but they did. That is a fact. It's on the Nasa website if you look hard.

Also , Who knows that we have a spirit / soul ? That is just assumptions with no evidence ever. Period. The human brain controls all of our thoughts , emotions etc. If you take a hardcore drug it will change the way you think about things, this just proves your soul doesn't really exist. It is all your brain that does the thinking. You think you have a soul , but it is really just your thought process.

When your brain is gone , You as a person don't exist on any level. Besides a dead body.

If there is a god....... Why does he let People burn little kids to death ???///????///???
Nice god there.... I want to believe that. Religious people say it's because life on earth is a learning experience for all and all have sins.... That's not an excuse for a god to let innocent things be tortured and killed in insanely painful ways. No excuse at all.

I don't want to believe in a god that wouldn't step in and help people.
I mean it is everyone they say, and it knows everything. Well than he gives a damm about people.

Jesus didn't put himself on a cross to pay for the sins of everyone.
The Romans Nailed him up , He didn't ask for it.....

W/e I have family that is religious , and I still love them , Even though religions are the biggest lies ever taught to the masses.

Carry on, But +1 for the No Higher power that created everything.

rachel · #**707** 02-02-2011, 06:23 AM

Plus : ) , like others have stated.

If there are 10 religions " there are more"

you would have to take 10 divided by 100percent to get the odds of your religion being correct.

Than you have to add in that they all could be wrong , and there also could be no creator / god.

Pycoba_rng · #**708** 02-02-2011, 07:44 AM

Being intoxicated and having read some of this thread I about laughed my ass off so hard. Trying to be intellegent when it comes to religon/ theory or anything of the conseus. Is a utter joke. Someones faith you can get a math formula for. You can have so many theories facts and proofs. Why is it that despite theory on opinion. Everyone knows its wrong to melest children? Why is it despite me being one years old. I have a funny feeling about being touched in certain areas? Could it be perhaps I am just not touched there often? Or maybe its just not a norm? Theres a thing we are all born with... A conscience. Whether you truly belive that is derived from how you are raised or some other bazar scientific theory is up to you. It just amazes me then how many are brainwashed in this world to have similar views like the ones I have stated. I bet if you took a poll across the world if raping 3 year olds is ok. You would have a higher poll number of No's then yes's. I know I know this is what we were taught to believe what was wrong and over the ages it became the norm.... But for you smart people when will that norm change and become a minority??? For me God exsist , his power shows in so much in the world. You call it science I call it god. Hes everywhere. When it comes down to it though you are the dictator of your own conscience... He is however listening and their to help you at times. I pray for people like you I really do. I think you would find a better enjoyment in life having you accepted God. Then again this is just me.

Harrison · #**709** 02-02-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think i'm a little off the current subjects but,

They did just prove how the universe was created like 8 months ago ? They are still working on all the fine details. But the telescope images of the past of the universe are pretty convincing. I don't know how they are able to look at the past of the universe, but they did. That is a fact. It's on the Nasa website if you look hard.

LO FUCKING L

Pycoba_rng · #**710** 02-02-2011, 08:10 AM

What amazes me even more. Is all the scientific theories and opinions concerning god. How long did it take you to come up with a opinion that is the opposite of believing gods exisistance? You base your entire theory/opinion on others... When people start basing their faith from within themselves and rather then others logic, theory , opinion is a true sign of a believer. I'd be more interested to hear about some of the miracles you had in your life. Or some of the joyous things. Rather then your hate and dismay for everything you call imperfect. I want to see some personal expierences into the disbelief of god. Not some scientific garbage you have been spoon fed from a book or some teacher/preacher. Show me your lifes anguish not others... Show me your goodness and how it wasn't god. You can't..... You will never be able to prove whether god or god doesn't exsist. So calling people idiots just shows what kind of moron you really are. God is bigger then than anything you make it him to be. He is EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING. Your logic is thin. No where near a spec on what god truly is. And you expect me to believe in your theory? I'd be more ought to believe in Philosphers and genius's then some retard like you. But even they had their faults. Show me a perfect man or woman and Ill show you god.