EQNext Discussion

[Kika Maslyaka]

EQN models look like SOE was just bought by Disney
even WoW models look more realistic.

[liveitup1216]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well hello there sir! I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I think you might be interested in buying...

Seriously, don't buy the snake oil pitch dude.

Still better than anything else in development that we know of. I'll keep an open mind and wait to see where they go with this.

[Rust1d?]

http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/08/05...races-revealed

Races and classes revealed

[Smedy]

Some cool ideas with the minecraft like type style shit, but nothings gonna beat the classic eq

[NachtMystium]

Horrible art direction and doesn't surprise me at all. Gameplay looks entertaining to say the least but it will not be EverQuest as we know it.

Sadly, I think the days of MMORPGs being a niche are over. It got too popular. No more neckbeards who RP and like to drop hours and hours into a game filled with matured art style and direction.

P99 is all we have left really, imo. MMORPGs are now cartoonish cash cows like angry birds and world of warcraft. Oh well, c'est la vie.

[Kohedron]

The things I noticed...

-I loved the idea of creatures being a mobile group and can be pushed back or they can expand themselves. And towns can be lost? Sounds interesting IMO.
-I like the graphics, they're like WoW graphics but they're actually good and not as cartoony. Also the environments have a realistic enough look to them.

-I did NOT like the idea of each class having two weapon types.. I just don't see how it's going to be an upgrade from how it was in EQ1. The example he gave of "one weapon might be for wide clearing attacks and others are more focused" annoys me because it implies that the game will be more like Diablo where most fighting will involve just mowing down garbage mobs.
-I did NOT like how "all the content is underground, you just have to find it". I can pretty much guarantee that people will find this content after a month at the most, then suddenly there will be no end game.
-I think he said there are only 8 classes. 8 classes? C'mon.

EDIT:

Also, every single skill that was shown in the demo exists in Diablo 3. I really hope the combat doesn't feel like D3's, that game left a horrible taste in my mouth.

[timhutton]

I find it mildly interesting that 14 years and countless successful games later people are still griping about art styles that are not the same as EverQuest's and complaining that they look "cartoony".

Apparently some people missed that boat altogether it would seem haha.

[Ellouelle]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The man said "inspiration". EQN's art style bears no resemblance to EQ's at all - which was his point (and is a concern of many of the fans commenting on other forums).

What I meant was that EQ1 has about as much artistic direction as dwarf fortress.

[Trojanman]

I love the art direction. As a visual effects artist and television producer, I think the use of color and mood are very appealing. I think a lot of people that disagree don't know what they actually want, and were ready to say it was crap before ever seeing it. Gamers make poor game designers.

[Treefall]

Originally Posted by Trojanman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love the art direction. As a visual effects artist and television producer, I think the use of color and mood are very appealing. I think a lot of people that disagree don't know what they actually want, and were ready to say it was crap before ever seeing it. Gamers make poor game designers.

For me the art style just amplifies my sadness about the game.

Honestly, Sony CREATED the holy trinity...which was PERFECT for the genre and the basis of other games' successes.

They took what was a great design basis and changed it for no reason, and that's what pisses me off to no end.

EQ, WoW, and other games have been stepping more and more away from it - that's the direction modern games are going. I would argue, there needs to be a big shift BACK to it.

WoW had a trinity of sorts in Warrior/Priest/Mage early on. EQ's was War/Cler/Ench.

In modern WoW, EQ and other MMO's, there are tons of tanks, tons of healers, and tons of DPS - CONTROL (and true support) IS COMPLETELY and utterly gone. When I think of boring clones, I think of other games where the tank pulls half of a zone/instance while a healer spams 1 button, and all the dps spam their 1 aoe ability. That's what's killing games, not the fabled trinity.

They further destroyed the trinity by doing away with agro. GW2 did it, and it sucks, WoW pretty much did it (if you haven't played in a while...a tank has to be AFK for literally half an hour to lose agro after hitting a mob twice), and it really sucks.

DPS should have to throttle, and CC/support should be vital. Being a tank should be challenging, and a healers job should be easy when the previous is done well, and hell when it's not.

Raiding, I'm fine with gimmicks, but there should always be the core of agro, control, and moderate(/heavy when called for) dps.

Give me classes that can CC. Give me classes that can haste, slow, buff regen, etc.

Give me the trinity.

Then make the world destructible and influenced by my decisions.

Turning their back on the gold standard of what they created, like just about all modern MMOS, is what's killing these games...WoW clones are copying a game without a trinity or utterly destroying mechanics and making button mashing single-player games you play alongside other people.