BDA to Phinigel

[Raev]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whatever role BDA had or didn't have is irrelevant. Staff was removing the system come Velious anyway.

I think you guys are confusing 'not expanding to Velious' with 'deleting it entirely'. And even if they had removed it entirely, you guys would have been in a solid position to push for it to come back now that Velious is back to the full on socking idiocy of Kunark.

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course he has. The man has 15000 posts! One of them must be pure unadulterated mathematical truth. Probably about cats.

More seriously, what I find most amazing about BDA is the total lack of self reflection and the inability to admit any role in the destruction of the R/C system. Fortunately Swish will keep this thread alive into 2020 to remind you!

Best thing we ever did. The guilds who decided to exploit it deserved what they got. Oddly enough, never see Swish mentioning that.

I do find it odd that people actually think BDA wanted a rotation in Velious. That's just another element of Swish's diseased imagination, as he continues his perfect record of getting everything completely wrong...

Omg! Almost forgot what that shitlord thinks is entertainment!

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the best things about leveling my cleric (2013) was, ironically...sitting in Naggy's lair for 16 hours waiting to hand the pearl in.

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you guys are confusing 'not expanding to Velious' with 'deleting it entirely'. And even if they had removed it entirely, you guys would have been in a solid position to push for it to come back now that Velious is back to the full on socking idiocy of Kunark.

Raev Raev Raev. You gotta start listening to Sirken more. Or at least the summaries of it, since he is almost unbearable to actually hear talking. Sirken is not interested in changes to the system. This is what the GMs WANTED. Pushing for changes? Sirken himself said he didn't bother to even listen to half of the 'guild summit'. Later on he made it perfectly clear not only is he not interested in changing the system, if he had his way he would actually make it WORSE.

This is Sirken's utopia, where guilds spend hundreds of man-hours staring at doors opening and closing up to sixteen hours at a time for a chance at one raid mob. And he gets this opinion reinforced by mouthbreathing retards who think sitting for sixteen hours in one place is perfectly acceptable entertaining gameplay.

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the best things about leveling my cleric (2013) was, ironically...sitting in Naggy's lair for 16 hours waiting to hand the pearl in.

In retrospect having ditched this retardfest for good, my respect for Sirken has gone up, though. I don't think he's as incompetent as I used to. I think he actually literally hates every raider on this server and wants to hurt them with these raid rules on purpose. It's tough to say - we are, after all, talking about the GM who thought suspending a guild for a time period in which no mobs would ever actually enter window was a suitable punishment, so clearly there's some serious problems with GM quality no matter what.

So don't seriously tell me that BDA could have "negotiated" some kind of better deal if they had just done things "differently", even if they had wanted to. Thinking this fundamentally misunderstands how the management here thinks.

THIS time, though, there's no shimmering jewel of hope of another expansion on the horizon. You morons who cling to the dream of a new rebooted server... good luck with that. Anyone with a modicum of sense is playing forum PvP now. BDA wasn't the first, it was just the most self contained. Every raiding guild on the server was bleeding players, and still is.

[Phantasm]

BDA has and always will reflect what is good about this game

Troll, work on some gifs and present your argument to Swish in that fashion. Swish actually speaks mostly in gif, this is how you get through to him

[wisenhemier]

Can't we all just quit the fussin and the feudin for a couple moments and just enjoy some pictures of patrick swayze??

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

p99 without BDA is like the Double Deuce without Dalton. Just another place where the staff suck at gm'ing.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raev Raev Raev. You gotta start listening to Sirken more. Or at least the summaries of it, since he is almost unbearable to actually hear talking. Sirken is not interested in changes to the system. This is what the GMs WANTED. Pushing for changes? Sirken himself said he didn't bother to even listen to half of the 'guild summit'. Later on he made it perfectly clear not only is he not interested in changing the system, if he had his way he would actually make it WORSE.

This is Sirken's utopia, where guilds spend hundreds of man-hours staring at doors opening and closing up to sixteen hours at a time for a chance at one raid mob. And he gets this opinion reinforced by mouthbreathing retards who think sitting for sixteen hours in one place is perfectly acceptable entertaining gameplay.



In retrospect having ditched this retardfest for good, my respect for Sirken has gone up, though. I don't think he's as incompetent as I used to. I think he actually literally hates every raider on this server and wants to hurt them with these raid rules on purpose. It's tough to say - we are, after all, talking about the GM who thought suspending a guild for a time period in which no mobs would ever actually enter window was a suitable punishment, so clearly there's some serious problems with GM quality no matter what.

So don't seriously tell me that BDA could have "negotiated" some kind of better deal if they had just done things "differently", even if they had wanted to. Thinking this fundamentally misunderstands how the management here thinks.

THIS time, though, there's no shimmering jewel of hope of another expansion on the horizon. You morons who cling to the dream of a new rebooted server... good luck with that. Anyone with a modicum of sense is playing forum PvP now. BDA wasn't the first, it was just the most self contained. Every raiding guild on the server was bleeding players, and still is.

For anyone who didnt want to read the essay above, I soldiered through it and can summarize:-

1. Fieldfare <BDA> hates the sound of Sirken's voice.
2. Fieldfare is still upset that Sirken didnt make raid concessions for BDA,so no welfare pixels.
3. Fieldfare is upset that some players do want to poopsock mobs and put the effort in.
4. After 2 paragraphs of staff bashing (bannable) he then says his opinion of Sirken has gone up.
5. Generally tails off sounding jaded, annoyed but does admit BDA was bleeding players.

Overall quite rustled, at odds with himself and the server, and keen to attribute any blue pop loss to "because BDA left" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA has and always will reflect what is good about this game

Thats the icing on the cake, lol. Your guild's reflections in this thread have been anything but good [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has Swish ever been right about anything? Honest question. I don't see any evidence of it in this thread at all.

Swish and evidence don't mix.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats the icing on the cake, lol. Your guild's reflections in this thread have been anything but good [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IRL I am a Presbyterian minster. I take very seriously my obligation to spread peace and light in everything I do. At the hospital where I work, that means even being a peaceful influence when others are violent or deranged. Peace be with you, Swish.