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[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we agree that, owing to the "elastic" nature of the words involved, your statement is neither true nor false. It is clearly highly offensive to whites, as no one wants to be labeled an evil oppressor, and that easily makes it hate speech

People aren't offended by the statement "Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet." If it offends or upsets or challenges the majority of people posting on P99 RnF, that's the clearest indication that it's not going to offend the majority of people who actually know how to use their brains in the real world.

Offending you idiots doesn't bother me in the slightest, because most of you are simply bigots and racists and misogynists that only know how to scream "SJW!" at anyone who calls you on your bullshit. Offending and upsetting you people is exactly what I'm trying to do, because you're all so damn comfortable with your cozy white, privileged lives that you think anyone who isn't must be harboring and projecting their white guilt or racist against white people. It's such a tired, nauseating argument that no one who's a part of any respected establishment is stupid enough to believe nonetheless repeat ad absurdum as so many of you do.

I'm positing that it is a true statement, and nothing anyone has said so far has even come close to disproving it. We shouldn't just give up in trying to reach a consensus on what words mean just because they're elastic. All words are slippery - definitions change and evolve, and we define things based on our cultural reality which changes over time and all the time. Hate speech isn't oppression, but it's oppressive, and facts are simply not hate speech and nor should they be.

I'm not the guilt-ridden white man you're looking for. I probably know more about and have much more respect for white culture than any of you, which is the very reason I argue so fervently about it. I also enjoy playing this video game on this server, which is why it bothers me to see the forums have become such a disgusting cesspool in which you can't find a single fucking thread without some moron thinking they're so clever for their racist innuendo, homophobic slurs, or poorly masked hatred of women.

I'm not proud of being white, but I enjoy being white, as any white person with any grasp of reality should.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y'all see the new trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE

That was awesome.

[feanan]

"you're all so damn comfortable with your cozy white, privileged lives"

sure am! good thing its very unlikely to change in my lifetime either

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People aren't offended by the statement "Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet." If it offends or upsets or challenges the majority of people posting on P99 RnF, that's the clearest indication that it's not going to offend the majority of people who actually know how to use their brains in the real world.

People aren't offended by the words "the only good ****** is a dead ******". If it offends of upsets or challenges the majority of people posting on P99 RnF, that's the clearest indication that it's not going to offend the majority of people who actually know how to use their brains in the real world.

I don't believe being offended is a valid argument in any way. But if you're going to accept that being offended is a legitimate argument, you can't then decide to be the arbiter on what is offensive and what is not. The thing about offense is it rests solely within the mind of another person and you don't have the power nor the right to determine what they think.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm positing that it is a true statement

"Caucasians are the most oppressive people in history" is neither objective nor measurable. As such it is what Wolfgang Pauli would call "not even wrong". It is highly inflammatory balderdash.

You need a good science and logic course to help you distinguish between PC propaganda and reality.

[Glenzig]

PaulG's comments are always good for a laugh. I say keep this thread going. I need some more 10 paragraph posts about how amazingly privileged I am just based on my skin color.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People aren't offended by the words "the only good ****** is a dead ******". If it offends of upsets or challenges the majority of people posting on P99 RnF, that's the clearest indication that it's not going to offend the majority of people who actually know how to use their brains in the real world.

I don't believe being offended is a valid argument in any way. But if you're going to accept that being offended is a legitimate argument, you can't then decide to be the arbiter on what is offensive and what is not. The thing about offense is it rests solely within the mind of another person and you don't have the power nor the right to determine what they think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qifwiNrVBFk

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Caucasians are the most oppressive people in history" is neither objective nor measurable. As such it is what Wolfgang Pauli would call "not even wrong". It is highly inflammatory balderdash.

You need a good science and logic course to help you distinguish between PC propaganda and reality.

So a reputable scholar would agree that his statement is "not even wrong." WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need a good science and logic course to help you distinguish between PC propaganda and reality.

I'm willing to say maybe, but probably not. I mean I'm fully aware that there's a point at which political correctness becomes problematic, but I'm also aware that Richard Dawkins looks like a complete asshole every time he says anything political. That doesn't discredit The Selfish Gene or any of his contributions to evolutionary biology in any way, but it is what it is. I'm somewhere in the middle, but admittedly I tend to err on the side of political correctness along with most of my fellow liberals.

And I don't want to come off like too much of a prick here - the ad hominems in my last post aren't really directed at you, but more at people like Kagatob and the other shitstains who make overtly racist and bigoted remarks. No real single shots, just a spray into the masses.

[paulgiamatti]

And you know what, fuck people who aren't overt in their racism and bigotry even harder. As I stated earlier, they're the ones compounding the problem - at least people who are overtly pieces of shit are being honest about being pieces of shit.