Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[quido]

tu ne comprends pas, ma petite cherie

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shame there isn't a server like that... O wait

Yea it is shame there isn't. If by the "o wait" you're talking red server. That is PvP everywhere and most do not like PvP (especially on blue) not to mention countless other problems that would cause not only the community QQ but with grief , cc , etc the list goes on. (AND MOST "BLUEBIE" do not want that).
But in the case of VP and Sleepers Tomb (which is topic) not all players are looking to raid end game or take the time to get keyed , and if they do they know how the training sucks and is not that fun unless you can participate, so a majority of the "Higher end players" probably wouldn't mind PvP > Train wars.
That is all I was saying and totally IMO.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Servellious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how training is ok then all of the sudden dispelling people isn't.

Exploiting a broken game mechanic that has been bug reported is relevant to this discussion how?

[Godefroi]

Exploiting a bug and abusing of the status of a "non-CSR" zone is exactly the same.

Why not just all zone into VP and freely talk about RMT and account trading in OOC just because it's non-CSR? Iirc, Training on P99 is illegal just like RMT and account trading, am I rite?

[timhutton]

Why do people keep using the argument that if training weren't allowed in VP that petitions would increase to some ungodly number? How would it be any different than any of the other encounters in the game?

Is it due to the assumed poor pathing that would cause "accidental" trains? Is it due to the fact players would have to be careful around each other?

Why are we under the assumption that players have zero obligation to make an effort to be courteous to one another and not do dumb shit that could, in any possible light, be construed as intenational training?

Yes, when you're racing to mobs you have to be careful and watch out for others, you can't just rip shit through the zone with 20 guardian wurms on you and then complain when somebody Frapses or screenshots you and says you were training. Accidental or not, use common sense and logic and it shouldn't be an issue.

Don't use it and you should be punished appropriately, how's it different than anywhere else?

[timhutton]

Visceral I don't get your signature.. you're trying to make fun of someone for being fat and lonely, but there is a member of the opposite sex in that very picture.

Unless it's like his sister or something...

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exploiting a broken game mechanic that has been bug reported is relevant to this discussion how?

Exploiting mob aggro to kill other people I guarantee was never a game mechanic that the developers intended people to use. Also exploiting other mechanics such as rez boxes and FD to drop aggro on other people. It's kinda funny you seem ok with those...but have issue with dispelling. When people say get rid of training you scream "No CSR" and trains was classic...yet when you guys first dispell people then get it returned to you...You guys seek CSR support under the guise of "Broken mechanic".

Wasn't most of the arguments in this very thread saying trains would cause petitions for GMs in a no CSR zone as one of the reasons it was allowed ? Yet you petitioned in the same zone. The Irony is strong.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exploiting mob aggro to kill other people I guarantee was never a game mechanic that the developers intended people to use. Also exploiting other mechanics such as rez boxes and FD to drop aggro on other people. It's kinda funny you seem ok with those...but have issue with dispelling. When people say get rid of training you scream "No CSR" and trains was classic...yet when you guys first dispell people then get it returned to you...You guys seek CSR support under the guise of "Broken mechanic".

Wasn't most of the arguments in this very thread saying trains would cause petitions for GMs in a no CSR zone as one of the reasons it was allowed ? Yet you petitioned in the same zone. The Irony is strong.

Is dispel currently working as intended? Is FD currently working as intended?

Remove that foot from your mouth. FD is not a known bug. Casting a dispel on someone out of group is. GM's say training in VP is legal, GM's say exploiting bugs are not legal.

This isn't really that difficult. Why is it so hard for you?

You need to seriously step up your thought processes if we are ever going to get married. I can't accept you as you are.

[Joroz]

getting trained in a non-csr zone sucks... don't petition just deal with it... training on purpose because the zone is non-csr is fucking stupid and an unfortunate side effect of the non-csr stance.

This zone can still be non-csr if they redefine the stance on training/greifing to match the rest of the zones. Trains will still happen but you can definitely tell if you got an accidental train or one on purpose in this place. Fraps can prove the intent and discipline can be handled the same as training/greifing anywhere on the rest of the server. Problem solved.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is dispel currently working as intended? Is FD currently working as intended?

Remove that foot from your mouth. FD is not a known bug. Casting a dispel on someone out of group is. GM's say training in VP is legal, GM's say exploiting bugs are not legal.

This isn't really that difficult. Why is it so hard for you?

You need to seriously step up your thought processes if we are ever going to get married. I can't accept you as you are.

Remove your foot from your mouth first genius. You and others took the stance that the zone was No-CSR and that training being banned would cause extra petitions. Yet watching Tiggles streams you were the guys complaining about people "Training to grief". Yet you defend it. Your guildies first dispelled people in VP and it got returned to them after Xerxes called out in Vent that he was getting dispelled by one of your members. What did you do ? Immediately petitioned it. Huge Irony there. Something you don't feel should be in VP and that you can't control with numbers...You petitionquest..Even after your guild were the ones doing it first.

It's kinda funny to watch your spin on everything Alarti. How you really can't see how big a Hypocritical windbag you are is beyond comprehension. =)