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Old 11-18-2020, 08:50 PM
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Yes I completely agree, but my original point was about the total illegitimacy of the blm movement and the resulting rioting, as well as the notion that bad police shoots are inherently racially motivated. Tons of white people also get shot by police every year, I can't think of a single protest or hashtag for any of them.

I could totally get behind a protest (NOT a riot) over an unjustified police killing of anybody, but that's fundamentally not what has been happening all summer. Jacob blake was literally attempting to sexually assault his ex girlfriend with her daughter in the house while she had an active restraining order against him, police shot him only after giving him a billion opportunities to chill the fuck out, and yet kenosha burned to the ground. No, fuck that. Fuck that guy, he was a piece of shit. He's not a martyr. And for his trouble he got over a million dollars on gofundme. This is utter moral confusion and insanity and that's what I'm pushing back against. I couldn't agree more that police should be better funded, so that they can be better trained and better prepared for all scenarios. But they are also volunteers, not in the sense that they aren't paid, but in the sense that they could have chosen any other career. Would you want to go and deal with a jacob blake situation, where you know you might get killed? Fuck no, and the fact that they choose to do it deserves respect.
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Old 11-18-2020, 08:54 PM
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You cunningly evaded answering the pertinent question yet again! Impressive.

If your life were at stake, somebody is running at you waving a knife, and he's black, and you taze him, and it doesn't work, and he continues running at you with a knife, and the only other resort you have is a gun, what would you do? Be as specific as possible. It's really not a hard question. The fact you keep neglecting to answer it is sort of the goal here, you are utterly incapable of criticizing a black person doing *anything*. The cops must always be in the wrong. This is fundamentally and completely retarded.

Part of treating black people as your equal is to call them out when they do terrible shit, just like you would for a white person. Otherwise you are viewing black people the same way you view children. "Welll ya know, he's just a kid, can I really blame him?? He doesn't know any better!". This is called the bigotry of low expectations. Any idiot on the planet can do the easy one where you go "slavery was bad!". No fuckin shit it was bad, obviously. Now do the harder one, where you don't treat black people like blameless children.
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Sure the more non-lethal tools for cops the better. They just have to actually work dependably, sadly tazers often don't. If one of nodes misses or doesn't penetrate deeply enough, it doesn't complete the circuit and nothing happens. And even when both penetrate, sometimes the suspect can just shake it off. This often happens with particularly large men or people under the influence of stimulants. I obviously want less black people to die. It's not like I revel in and celebrate a police shooting of a black man, but the counter narrative makes no god damn sense at all. It's pure fantasy.
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Old 11-18-2020, 09:05 PM
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Isn't there an ideology for people think it's cool and good for the state to murder people?

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Old 11-18-2020, 10:37 PM
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I'm perfectly fine with cops executing chronic child abusers and wife beaters. But let's codify it with legal kill orders coming from central command so cops don't have to get shit on and we can all agree it was necessary. Someone beats wife, skips bails, refuses to go to courts, gets out of prison, violent response to a 9.11 call.

Nuke the fucker. U get exactly 1 chance if you're that kinda asshole in my world.

Even if all you do is throw a coffee cup at a nurse. Just die. I don't care if she cheated and your bloodsugar is low. It's a plebe mistake. You should have made it look like an accident and not involved the rest of us.

Fuck it. Legalize public execution by assassination and privatize @ that point. If you can't handle that you shouldn't be doing crimes.

Within two decades the world would drastically improve. No system is perfect, but as a species we should strive for it.
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Old 11-18-2020, 11:56 PM
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Old 11-19-2020, 12:03 AM
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I'm perfectly fine with cops executing chronic child abusers and wife beaters. But let's codify it with legal kill orders coming from central command so cops don't have to get shit on and we can all agree it was necessary. Someone beats wife, skips bails, refuses to go to courts, gets out of prison, violent response to a 9.11 call.

Nuke the fucker. U get exactly 1 chance if you're that kinda asshole in my world.

Even if all you do is throw a coffee cup at a nurse. Just die. I don't care if she cheated and your bloodsugar is low. It's a plebe mistake. You should have made it look like an accident and not involved the rest of us.

Fuck it. Legalize public execution by assassination and privatize @ that point. If you can't handle that you shouldn't be doing crimes.

Within two decades the world would drastically improve. No system is perfect, but as a species we should strive for it.
I dont think we should kill wife beaters . I think alot of times those relationships are a sort of coequal codependency thingy. However I have not known alot of those first hand so maybe there is some criteria we could come up with.
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Old 11-19-2020, 12:04 AM
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Taser defines its flagship product as "less lethal", fyi
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Old 11-19-2020, 12:13 AM
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I liked it when libertarian meant you didnt trust the goverment and thought the police should get the hell out of your life forever.

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Old 11-19-2020, 12:54 AM
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Taser defines its flagship product as "less lethal", fyi
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Old 11-19-2020, 12:57 AM
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I dont think we should kill wife beaters . I think alot of times those relationships are a sort of coequal codependency thingy. However I have not known alot of those first hand so maybe there is some criteria we could come up with.
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