Zero Reasons not to Wipe

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And how can we get new blood without just wiping and everything and killing server pop in the long run? By enabling one time blue to red transfer.

What would happen if all those transfers joined 1 guild and it was Nihilum?

Not saying they would, but.. that's a possibility.

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plenty of people in nihilum aren't happy with the state of the server. But we aren't all going to disband and hold hands with Andis and lite because of it. The RMT accusations are dumb if there was RMT you'd see random people running around with COF's trak bps etc and yet you don't. Just make the fixes needed open up transfers and have a huge month long xp bonus and make sure it all happens before velious. Be bold and brave and try something new like item loot etc.

Claiming that there is no RMT going on is seriously laughable

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would only be a "whim" if the server population were healthy, which it is not. A "whim" suggests that there are no problems and I just want this for personal reasons.

In addition, saying you wont wipe the server because thats the rule you made a while ago is like people saying pot should not be decriminalized "because its the law," i.e. not a reason. Also, im not asking for "Highlander rules and reincarnation." Im asking for a change that would temporarily disadvantage a tiny minority of outspoken Nihilum members and revitalize red 99 for the rest of us.

You keep wanting something out of me that I'm not going to give. I'm not the sole decision maker for this project. Ultimately, I decide if the content is classic and that it exists. I'm down for conversation and opinions, but keep that in mind.

[heartbrand]

I think, and I don't speak for nihilum, that something like that would not be acceptable to the member base. We already have too many people but many of them fall into the category of "the opposition is awful its either nihilum or I'm quitting." My hope with transfers would be an entire guild would see the futility of blues end game raid scene and come over in whole to compete. Velious will also be great for smaller guilds who would to grab Kunark targets that will no longer be held down. Maybe I'm just thinking wishfully but I truly don't believe we'd open the flood gates and allow a hundred blue apps.

[reddi lol]

I remember hen Jeffrey/Minie quit one of the many times they quit, we saw the characters and mistwalkers both on PL website. Shortly after Rogean did the exploited dragon loot deletes and it poofed Jeffrey's mistwalker.

Supreme and Nizzar tol me to give my MW to him. Even tho we saw it on PL website...

Few weeks later Taiden is spotted with mistwalker at Dino camp. He kept it a secret and nobody in guild knew he had it.

#vlassic
#whatdoesitmeantho

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep wanting something out of me that I'm not going to give. I'm not the sole decision maker for this project. Ultimately, I decide if the content is classic and that it exists. I'm down for conversation and opinions, but keep that in mind.

This is what I am concerned about. 70-80 people peak times does not satisfy my notion of "existing," but everyone has their own definition

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Claiming that there is no RMT going on is seriously laughable

The onus is on you to prove such. If there was RMT by the guild you would see again people you never heard of or who aren't in nihilum walking around in end game gear. But yet you don't. I do the dkp logs with thrilla. Every item is tracked. Stop making up bullshit. On the other hand there is an RMT market for accounts but that's not a guild sponsored phenomenon.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by reddi lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember hen Jeffrey/Minie quit one of the many times they quit, we saw the characters and mistwalkers both on PL website. Shortly after Rogean did the exploited dragon loot deletes and it poofed Jeffrey's mistwalker.

Supreme and Nizzar tol me to give my MW to him. Even tho we saw it on PL website...

Few weeks later Taiden is spotted with mistwalker at Dino camp. He kept it a secret and nobody in guild knew he had it.

#vlassic
#whatdoesitmeantho

I heard a lot of stuff about nihilum during classic. I don't know what happened then I can only speak to what happens now.

[nilbog]

TBH, I'm not opposed to a 1 time transfer from pve-pvp. I'd probably vote yes on it; an unconditional, one time transfer. And that's only for pve->pvp, not from pvp->pve.

I don't see how it would help with zerging though. You assume that people would join forces against the biggest guilds. With the current ruleset, the only thing (I think) that would change gameplay is for the biggest guilds to split in half. I don't play, but from everything I understand, I would be one of the people leading a split. :x

[heartbrand]

As a further response to nilbog, a guild here Force tried on multiple occasions to merge with nihilum but was rebutted as being bad for the server. There's plenty of people to contest they just are all choosing for a variety of reasons to sit on the sidelines.