So when did classic get rid of xp penalties?

[raptorak]

Originally Posted by dusk883 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any chance you were in Army of Grobb?

I agree with everything you say, but I do play some... just not the beloved troll race unless I'm screwing around as a Shaman now that exp rates have been exposed.

Minions of Zek I believe, the newbie guild that had nearly everyone in it and I was a lowly lieutenant - we used to zerg Cazic Thule and Gfaydark and see how many corpses we could make hehe. Dunno what else, I remember being in a guild called Flowers of Happiness as a lowly level 15 shaman at some point but that might have been Rallos Zek.

[Twosmoke]

twosmoke agrees that this xp penalty makes no sense at all, wouldnt even consider it "real" classic as previous poster pointed out very well.

[Dantes]

Originally Posted by dusk883 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any chance you were in Army of Grobb?

I agree with everything you say, but I do play some... just not the beloved troll race unless I'm screwing around as a Shaman now that exp rates have been exposed.

Now that experience rates have been exposed? Are you saying this is a secret? Check out the FAQ. See the section entitled "What are the experience penalties/bonuses?" Beyond that, anybody who played classic knows this is part of the game.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

They can't rightfully change it now that so many Paladins and Shadow Knights have busted their butts to reach 60. That would be a slap in the face, essentially saying "Now that you've wasted all this time, we're gonna make it easier for everybody else." If you are waiting for them to change it, don't hold your breath.

[Harrison]

They're not going to change it for any reason. This has been beaten to death with logic already.

Everyone knows the experience penalties and bonuses were a mistake and some of them even literally not meant for that race and/or class at all in the first place.(admitted by original devs, many times)

They don't care.

[Rainflush]

Although I generally approve of classic EQ's various rigours (and vehemently decry anything beyond the second expansion, but that's another thread) I have to say the class-based experience penalty is really quite disheartening and the notion of a shared experience penalty is simply absurd. That being said, I can respect the developers dedication to the 'classic' experience (as subjective an idea as it is, apparently) and take consolation in knowing that the penalties will be abolished at some point within the Velious expansion. If it were removed today I'd be entirely thrilled, if I have to wait for Velious I imagine I can do that as well. I will add however that as someone who likes to create alternate characters I'd much appreciate anything which would lenify the 1-30 grind in particular.

[raptorak]

Sheer bloody mindedness and logic are hardly equivalent Harrison.

The way things are, kill sth. that yields 100 exp - troll sk gets 32 exp, halfling warrior gets 115. Goddamn this game is horrible.

Oh well, have fun in those basements :P

And to those sks/pallys who have made it to 60 - that is madness!

Am going to wait for Velious and see if they put their classic where their mouth is, and I shall do the same in the mean time.

[Arrisard]

Then don't play a troll SK? JFC dude, play it or don't, but don't sit here with the high and mighty "I have a real life, I can't put up with a 68% exp penalty like you basement dwellers" crap.

Because that's what it is. Absolute crap. Having a level 60 whatever vs having a level 40 or 50 whatever for the same amount of time played isn't going to make anyone lose jobs or wives or any of that nonsense.

[Hamahakki]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way things are, kill sth. that yields 100 exp - troll sk gets 32 exp, halfling warrior gets 115. Goddamn this game is horrible.

Sorry, but that's just not how it works. You kill a mob (solo) which yields 100 exp, you get 100 exp no matter what race and class you are. It just takes more exp to level for a TRL/SHD vs a HFL/WAR.

In fact, because exp penalties are shared, if a duo of equal level TRL/SHD and HFL/WAR kill a mob which yields 100 exp, the troll gets 66 and the halfling gets 34.

This is the reason some people don't want to group with hybrids. If it worked like your example (where hybrids just took less exp from mobs) people would LOVE hybrids.

[mokfarg]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sheer bloody mindedness and logic are hardly equivalent Harrison.

The way things are, kill sth. that yields 100 exp - troll sk gets 32 exp, halfling warrior gets 115. Goddamn this game is horrible.

Oh well, have fun in those basements :P

And to those sks/pallys who have made it to 60 - that is madness!

Am going to wait for Velious and see if they put their classic where their mouth is, and I shall do the same in the mean time.

If you don't like the server that is trying to be classic, I think later after Velious there will be some sort of custom server being created by the same great team we have now.

I hope these guys continue to do servers. I know that is unrealistic considering life moves on but hopefully they will for quite sometime.

[dusk883]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now that experience rates have been exposed? Are you saying this is a secret? Check out the FAQ. See the section entitled "What are the experience penalties/bonuses?" Beyond that, anybody who played classic knows this is part of the game.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

They can't rightfully change it now that so many Paladins and Shadow Knights have busted their butts to reach 60. That would be a slap in the face, essentially saying "Now that you've wasted all this time, we're gonna make it easier for everybody else." If you are waiting for them to change it, don't hold your breath.

ok ok ok... exposed to him and I... didnt mean there was a conspiracy...