Skyshrine: The Unscrewing

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by oldschooltrader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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im sure many people remember same thing I do, i played Velious n quit at Luclin so i kno the era. Here r a few quotes from Alla talking about a coldain merchant that rewards you with one of the armor quests ( druid bp)


http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5868

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#Aug 31 2001 at 12:42 AMRating: Default
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You have to have ally status w/ the folks of the city where you want to do the armor quests.

I am ally in Thurg and can get any class's armor quests simply by hailing the appropriate NPC.

Wolana Phoenixfyre, Kelethin-Xegony


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#Mar 04 2002 at 12:10 PMRating: Decent
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Kill Frost Giant Scouts or Drakkel Dire Wolves in The Great Divide. That will raise your Coldain faction up.

so maybe they changed it within the first couple months which on this server bc of this velious delay are we really gonna have to wait half a year to get the quest factions where it should properly end up? I dont think the basic class armor quests ever required the bosses ( besides sneaking by Tormax as i mentioned) i will show u more proof later but im on my phone at work, where is your info that its on the boss faction ?

One post is from August, the other is After Luclin released & wouldn't apply ever. There are other posts in this thread already that indicate the time line.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by oldschooltrader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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so maybe they changed it within the first couple months which on this server bc of this velious delay are we really gonna have to wait half a year to get the quest factions where it should properly end up? I dont think the basic class armor quests ever required the bosses ( besides sneaking by Tormax as i mentioned) i will show u more proof later but im on my phone at work, where is your info that its on the boss faction ?

Yes. Velious is, as Velious was.

Wait for planes upgrades, wait for item upgrades, wait for faction changes, wait for ally level, wait for patches, etc.

The links you posted are both post-faction changes, which is why they support your position.

[oldschooltrader]

I cant forum quest or bug report on my phone at work to slow

just wanted to see evidence that supported his claims or anyones that the boss faction was required for armor

we kno what faction they eventually turned into but if we have no hard evidence that it was ever different than whose to say what was what?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by oldschooltrader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cant forum quest or bug report on my phone at work to slow

just wanted to see evidence that supported his claims or anyones that the boss faction was required for armor

we kno what faction they eventually turned into but if we have no hard evidence that it was ever different than whose to say what was what?

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding mobs on +Yelinak faction...

Skyshrine quest giver room, as of March 1, 2001, kos to this poster, but rest of Skyshrine is amiable.
http://web.archive.org/web/200602191...ml?faction=200

Posted @ Thu, Mar 1st 4:14 AM 2001
"I'm amiable to all the residents until "Komawin Fe`Dhar scowls at you, ready to attack" very high in the tower. There is a room with a pyramid in the center and 6 or 8 wyvern to the left and right (well out of aggro range I believe). This beast is one of them. I suspect he and the rest of the room is on Yelinak faction. I did see others still further in that were "amiable" again."

March 13/14, 2013
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...+armor+faction

Thurg armor doesnt have a chain look.
Quest givers on Yelinak faction

You can charm the quest giving mobs in skyshrine, so Yelinak faction isn't absolutely a requirement.

March 26, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...+armor+faction

Rumor has it, that currently it is possible to have a non-kos enchanter charm the Kael and Skyshrine quest mobs (Green at 55) and walk them out to zone to complete quests, indifferent faction is all that is required.

It should also be noted that any with sneak skill, can complete the quests with only dubious faction (Since they can get back there, and get indifferent with sneak)

First rumor is unchecked, second is fact, and has been done a few times.

Khalim Richelieu
The Pantheon

March 21, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...+armor+faction

Quest NPC for the Kael cleric armor is Vylleam Vyaeltor (located in room directly behind Tormax). Faction required is indifferent to Tormax (Dwarf heads to Bvellos, or kill Seneschal, Royal Guards, Dain, Velketor, or Yelinek for this). The quest npcs are low 30s in level and can be charmed. Faction needed to get there is Kromzek and Tormax. Components needed for the Quest are: 3 gems (varies with the piece) and the corresponding piece of ancient tarnished plate. Ancient tarnished plate drops in Temple of Veeshan of CoV factioned mobs (there's some right at zone in).

April 23, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...+armor+faction

The quest givers in Skyshrine were recently changed from Yelniak to CoV faction, you only need to be indifferent to CoV to do the armor quests. Currently the only MOB in skyshrine that is Yelniak faction is Lord Yelniak himself.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. Velious is, as Velious was.

Wait for planes upgrades, wait for item upgrades, wait for faction changes, wait for ally level, wait for patches, etc.

The links you posted are both post-faction changes, which is why they support your position.

Sticking to Classic isn't necessarily the best route or the route they always take. There's a couple examples we've seen so far that are not classic, but have been implemented to maintain the integrity of the game.

Examples (I agree with all these decisions minus #1):

1) Mobs having a full spell-book at their respective levels.
2) Variance
3) Pet Aggro - this is the big one. On VZTZ, we killed a mob that was basically Avatar of War at level 50 due to chain petting. It doesn't matter if a melee-only mob flurries 1k, 4k, 5k, whatever - if it doesn't regen a ton, you're only spending 200 mana pre-specialization checks to 'heal' a combat round.

Anyhow, I think they'd be absolutely crazy to stick to classic for a few parts of Velious. Donals BP should be gutted immediately on Velious launch. Furthermore, they should not launch with faction-wars possible (even if that's a feature still on live) or else you'll get shit like monks with puppet strings soloing raid bosses.

Good work on the research though for quest NPCs. I'd imagine that we're still going to see this fall into the 'not classic, but abusable' category.

[Aeolwind]

Thank you Ele! And I have screenshots from around April 2001 that show /con on the armor mobs in Skyshrine.

[Sarius]

The only quest that required Yelinak faction was King Tormax's head, correct?

[Aeolwind]

....give me strength.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

....give me strength.

...begins to cast reckless strength.

[oldschooltrader]

ty Ele and Aeol for researching and responding

as a 16 year old boy obv i remember only what i experienced [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im all for classic at start of velious as that is point of our great servet

3 cheers!