Am I the only one

[freez]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll bite - why is mana 'wasted' on charming a caster versus any other mob? There are some camps where casters are everywhere and ToT is a nonbo, but in places like KC basement where everything is a skeleton warrior, there's no way I'm taking anything but a caster downstairs. At least i GET a ToT target every break, and by ToT'ing it I reduce the mana it has so it casts less and melees more - it still has the same hit table as other mobs.

the dmg put out by a hasted dual wielding melee does 3x the dps of a charmed caster.


also once casters get oom they spam dispells and blinds.


with color slant and boltrans you can recharm with out taking one melee if youre decent.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by freez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the mana wasted keeping a charmed caster is in no way replenished with a theft of thought.

you want to argue with me about charming casters... pls l2p

Get fucked. You don't know what you're talking about.

[freez]

basicly its more dangerous to sit around with a shitty charmed pet that breaks as often as a melee. you want to get in and finished with combat asap. if you have some terrible caster pet that is oom spammin dispells you have to re root it often, you are in fights for twice the duration which equals DANGER !

nawm sayin?

[August]

Originally Posted by freez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the dmg put out by a hasted dual wielding melee does 3x the dps of a charmed caster.


also once casters get oom they spam dispells and blinds.


with color slant and boltrans you can recharm with out taking one melee if youre decent.

Do you have numbers to back up your 3x claim? I'd be interested to see parses of different charmed mobs. I haven't played ENC in over a year and when I did was i was just charming the zol knights in seb or melee skellies in HS.

That being said, I can definitely see the value of charming a caster in a mana tight scenario, such as KC basement.

Also, is your avatar Thorin Oakenshield? That's who I see when I see him.

[freez]

Originally Posted by Spitty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get fucked. You don't know what you're talking about.

im glad you have alot of points to argue about this topic.

oh wait you dont.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Skittlez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cause I have low health due to spamming canni, greater heal, regen, and quickness. Why would you want the healer to have to take a break and slow the xp rate down because people just 'have' to have their buffs? If you take out all that extra downtime from having to buff, you can just deal with mob after mob after mob after mob. It's only a small difference, but given how long it takes to level in EQ, those extra mobs you squeeze in really make the difference in the long run.

It's just like how I never buff my self when I am soloing. Why? Because I have to waste extra time just sitting there watching my mana bar fill back up when I could have used that mana for that Scourge DoT that just faded. It just wastes too much time if you aren't doing something really worth while.

In your example you have an enchanter. How about you drop the haste and let the pro do that, while you stick to the str buff. Win/Win.

[freez]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have numbers to back up your 3x claim? I'd be interested to see parses of different charmed mobs. I haven't played ENC in over a year and when I did was i was just charming the zol knights in seb or melee skellies in HS.

That being said, I can definitely see the value of charming a caster in a mana tight scenario, such as KC basement.

no. i dont parse to confirm dps of charmed pets.

charmed hasted pets in seb quad once every 1.5 seconds. if it stops to cast a 500 pt nuke that takes 5 secodns to cast, you just lost alot of dps.

the biggest problem is the fact it chain dispells your mob. you want that rooted. this is im sure very obvious.

[freez]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, is your avatar Thorin Oakenshield? That's who I see when I see him.

riff raff bro

[Spitty]

Why does everything immediately have to be an argument with you?

Civil discussion is just too challenging, is that it?

Why you gotta come into this thread, rustle up all these nice people? Got nothing better to do than to come into Skittlez's thread and SHOW YOUR ASS?

[August]

Originally Posted by freez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no. i dont parse to confirm dps of charmed pets.

charmed hasted pets in seb quad once every 1.5 seconds. if it stops to cast a 500 pt nuke that takes 5 secodns to cast, you just lost alot of dps.

the biggest problem is the fact it chain dispells your mob. you want that rooted. this is im sure very obvious.

Hrm... my experience when I was forced to charm wizards in seb is that they do a shitton of damage and when they stop they start melee'ing w/ the same max hit as their melee counterparts. Like you, i don't parse so I don't know if they are necessarily doing way less damage, but it never felt that way.

I've never had a problem w/ a caster dispelling my roots, but then again I'm not your typical chanter that solos a lot. I like to group with people, and I'm usually juggling buffing everyone, mezzing, and charming. Having my pet break and start casting a slow spell that gets cancelled by a quick mez instead of getting multiple hits on me can be really awesome versus mobs being in camp needing CC and getting bashed/wailed on by my VoG'ed quadding knight.

i tend to take situations 1 by 1. That being said, i'll keep your advice in mind next time i'm on my enc.

Also, is your avatar Thorin Oakenshield? - edit saw you answered this. who is riff raff?