Dear Knights Who Say Ni,

[sulpher01]

Wheres the OP now? This thread just needs a little more hilarity....

[Tankdan]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wants screenshots of the 3 hour group that clearly show us all going "oh my gosh Patrick that was such a good pull, you only got one!" "Yeah it's all thanks to your great lull song Keke!" "LOL WE'RE SUCH A GOOD GR- oh GOD WHAT'S HAPPENING, WE'VE BEEN TRAINED"


Unfortunately guess what, no one takes screenshots of how smoothly their group is going and 99% of the time screenshots are taken after things like, oh, a train


You think I'm sitting there spamming cantata and melee songs watching my tank's health stay below 50% for an entire fight going, I'd better take a screenshot of this, someday some guy I've never heard of might doubt that my group was good

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're trying to make this about me and my group, but I've already said I have no interest whatsoever in "proving" this guy's badness. He got removed from his guild. It's already done. I have nothing to gain from any of this. As far as I'm concerned he can live the rest of his EQ life in peace as long as he doesn't train me again. The only reason I brought it up in the first place was that I was giving an example of how methodical and fair Stem is about these things, and then it turned out this was the same guy and wow, what a coincidence. You think I give a blue shitting Christ if you believe me when I say my guildies and I run HS groups more or less every night and the only issue we were having was that we weren't being healed? Cause I don't. Believe what you want. I don't even get what your point is. We could have been a terrible group and it doesn't change the fact that this guy trained us.

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly would constitute evidence to you? Three witnesses reporting the same exact thing and screenshots of group chat that backs up what they all said. That's not evidence?

Ok, i was going to bite my tongue but the irony here is too much! I was just stirring the pot at first but

I have yet to find a BDA monk who gives 2 fucks about cleric mana. This is KC faceroll groups specifically with the 54-58ish monks in your guild since thats my clerics level range atm. Since KC is such a joke I normally roll with it because exp is exp even if im low mana the whole time. But I've seen them wipe group after group or get the chanter killed because they just keep pulling with zero fucks given and when more than intended is pulled somebody dies. I not only tell the group my mana, but I have 10 macros so I can spam 10m 20m 30m etc after every pull. That is why im skeptical. Not saying a monk was even involved in this scenario but just my observation, and hilarious after i warned a BDA monk practically the whole group how retarded he was for pulling when we have no mana.

With that said I don't have an issue with BDA or anything, much <3

[Kekephee]

Eh. Our monks get a little crazy, but that's because they're mostly pretty leet. A good monk- a good puller, period, and I know this because I have to pull pretty often- should push their group cause if you're pulling one mob at a time, dinky dinky doo, wait five minutes, get another, doodle doodle dee, the exp suffers. Unfortunately there's more risk in that strategy and sometimes you lose that fight.

I posit to you that it's not just BDA monks, it's all monks to some extent but especially all the really good ones, who will pull with enough frequency and/or intensity (number of mobs per pull vs. number of mobs per minute) that your healer isn't sitting there with full mana, thumb in ass, wishing they were getting better exp.

[captnamazing]

I was tanking for that HS South group and can confirm that he intentionally trained us in the first large room of the wing. We were talking to him since journeying the previous wing (West, I think?), trying to nudge him with questions of why he wasn't healing us at certain times. When we went to South, it was obvious that this guy couldn't keep up, so I gave him the fact of the matter. Stop AFKing, start healing, or we're replacing you. Then he told us we were going to die anyway. I told him to leave, and he gated, but not after casting Divine Barrier and pulling two rooms of mobs on top of us.

It makes me glad to see that Knights has acquired enough concrete evidence to remove this fellow from the guild. He is clearly remorseless and cannot see how his actions fuck with others.

Obviously we all make errors in this game, as in life. Equally important to the errors made is how the person chooses to act after offending another.

As always, much love to you Stembolt, Phace, and all the other Knights I used to party with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kekephee]

But it's probably a moot point anyway cause I think we did have a monk in our group, but I think I was pulling, and that always means single pulls with an inordinate amount of time between them while I sit there trying to cycle lull through a whole room of mobs and if I miss one i have to start all over. There were a couple big pulls in there, like when I'd get a critical lull resist, but we had a necro and a bard. Our CC was quite adequate.

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow your guild has its own human resources?

lmao....


I know what guild to never join.

That's cool, you can found the two man asshole guild with Smite.

But you don't have to, because you're sure as fuck not going to post your character name here, you'd like to act all tough on the forum, while at the same time you'd still like to group with the people you call out here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A good monk- a good puller, period, and I know this because I have to pull pretty often- should push their group

This is true, but with a caveat: A good puller will pull enough to push his group, but *not* wipe them. Mistakes will happen, occasionally, but in a popular zone like Karnor group wipes should be exceedingly rare. A puller who pulls half a dozen monsters when his Enchanter and Cleric are out of mana (we've all seen it happen) isn't a good puller, he's just an impatient twit. Excessive deaths and delays will slow a group down more than a slight reduction in pull rate.

As for the rest of the thread, mostly I'm surprised at the original poster caring so much about being removed from his guild. Folks don't usually worry about what happens in mid-low tier guilds too much.

Danth

[Inconstant]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh. Our monks get a little crazy, but that's because they're mostly pretty leet. A good monk- a good puller, period, and I know this because I have to pull pretty often- should push their group cause if you're pulling one mob at a time, dinky dinky doo, wait five minutes, get another, doodle doodle dee, the exp suffers. Unfortunately there's more risk in that strategy and sometimes you lose that fight.

I posit to you that it's not just BDA monks, it's all monks to some extent but especially all the really good ones, who will pull with enough frequency and/or intensity (number of mobs per pull vs. number of mobs per minute) that your healer isn't sitting there with full mana, thumb in ass, wishing they were getting better exp.

+1

[justin2090]

Ni !

[Yoite]

this was a great read =)