Okay, I was just going to let this guy pound nails into his own coffin because clearly he's a piece of work, but I don't like to see my guild drug through the dirt just as much as the next guy. When I waited until I was level 45 to join up with an actual guild (and not just a couple of friends tooling around and XPing together occasionally), it was important to me to find a guild where standards of behavior and integrity were important values. After all, just as much as my behavior reflects on my guild, the behavior of the guild reflects back on me.
I wasn't there for the Freeti Incident. I agree it was kind of a douche move and wish it had turned out better so I don't have some person suffering from Tourette's Syndrome and his enchanter "friend" trashing my guild. But, as someone mentioned before, you have guilds getting their raid targets snatched out from under them when they fail. You have guilds cramming into Hate or Fear taking advantage of one guild's work breaking into the plane. Also douche moves, but allowed by the rules. Where do you draw the line?
The server is goddamned camped to high hell, eagerly awaiting the release of new content. So yes, you have guilds breathing down each others' necks for raid targets. You have people waiting in line for the good loot/XP camps. However, there's a difference between being douchebags, and having a spine and sticking up for yourself. You don't go double-AFK when you're duoing on a decent loot camp. You did and were effectively wiped. Yes, you lived, but you lacked the ability to charm the pets and pacify the mobs needed to handle Freeti himself. If a raid wipes to Maestro because all 20 of them decided to go take a bio break at the same time, and a FD monk managed to live... you think he still "holds Maestro"? No. He can't take Maestro by himself, that raid effectively wiped, game over, next guild's turn. It was our fault for taking the 20-person shit.
No one is going to sit around and wait for you to unfuck yourself at the Freeti spawn after you and your enchanter "friend" thought up the tactically genius move of taking a dual shit together while you were duoing. As was mentioned before, even if your enchanter "friend" got back before the next PH respawn, it was because the group from VD was clearing the way for him.
You couldn't handle the spawn until the enchanter got back. The only reason the enchanter could get back was if a group was clearing the path.
THEN, we find out that poor Hobby shows up, can't figure out what the fuck is going on, because he doesn't believe EITHER SIDE:
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:32 2010] You say, 'since i dont believe either one of you two completely....we'll make this a pretty simple decision'
Which is fine, because everything is complete hearsay to him at this point. He does what I would expect the GM to do in this situation. Make an impartial decision and just let the random number generator sort it out. But then you go all emo like that Kurt guy on Glee (which I totally don't watch) and throw a tantrum:
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:42 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'no , actually ill make the decision'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:45 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'fuck you VD'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:47 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'AKE it'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:52 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'HAVE IT'
[Thu Dec 02 16:26:00 2010] You say, 'well... i was going to have you two roll but that solves it too!'
Therefore benevolently and graciously yielding the camp to the VD group. THEN, you come here and post about your vendetta on how you're going to steal all of VD's camps:
Next, you attempt to steal the AC camp and then wonder why the GM rules against you and then suspends your ass when you just admitted to everyone yesterday what your motive was? Once again, you are a tactical genius... but that is like a notch above the Double-Pooping Maneuver you invented yesterday.
Some flaws with your argument:
That's not what AFK camping is, otherwise the guy camping Hadden for the FB earring would get his camp stolen every time. You may want to check this out:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19589
In case you can't find it, here you go, from Nilbog himself:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...77&postcount=9
Again, the enchanter made it to his corpse because he was trailing behind the VD group. Therefore, you needed their help to have your enchanter return so you could continue to fight, no? Or can a naked enchanter pacify/lull his way perfectly all the way there on his own? I dunno. I'm a ranger. I can't even make it past the first fucking kobold with my gear.
All I know is you're making a complete fool over yourself over one Freeti camp. That you gave to us when you nerdraged. At first it didn't sit right with me that it went down the way it did as I read it, but now that you're comparing yourself to Jesus and all sorts of insane shit like that... I'm just going to let your thread here speak for itself. Dick move in Freeti? Perhaps. I wasn't there, I'm not going to armchair quarterback this one. I would like to believe VD wouldn't have moved in had there been a compelling reason to believe you had control of the camp and were not just trying to "claim it while waiting for your enchanter "friend" to return".
Next time get a sock to poop in, did you not get that memo on this server yet? Then there would have been no question about whether you had control of the camp, this thread would not have been here, and at worst you're out a few socks. Don't use fishnet stockings though... lesson learned on that one, let me tell you.
The only good that has come from this entire situation is that synchronized group shitting has been banned in our guild.
12-03-2010, 10:51 PM
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