Most Dominant Guild Ever? VOTE

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were you around for DA vs IB? Because your join date indicates you weren't. DA got competitive around april/may of 2010, a full year before your join date. Not sure how you can compare two time periods when you didn't experience one of them.

Forum accounts are a dime a dozen. The dates aren't a very big indicator of when people started on the server moran. You are entitled to your bad opinion. It just isn't a valid opinion if competitiveness is the discussion,

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forum accounts are a dime a dozen. The dates aren't a very big indicator of when people started on the server moran. You are entitled to your bad opinion. It just isn't a valid opinion if competitiveness is the discussion,

Fair enough, although you did kind of deflect from answering if you were actually around. I only questioned it since it seems like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You said TMO was a good guild before VP, but before merging with DA "TMO break fear yet?" was literally a server wide joke. Also IB and TMO only really competed in VP for a month or two before IB left te server, where as DA (and the subsequent DJ david deere guilds) competed for like a year and a half.

I'm not denying TMO dominated late game Kunark for a huge period of time, just pointing out that every single time period in which IB was present they either were, or quickly became the #1 guild on the server. I'd consider that dominance.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forum accounts are a dime a dozen. The dates aren't a very big indicator of when people started on the server moran. You are entitled to your bad opinion. It just isn't a valid opinion if competitiveness is the discussion,

*diamond dozen

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, although you did kind of deflect from answering if you were actually around. I only questioned it since it seems like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You said TMO was a good guild before VP, but before merging with DA "TMO break fear yet?" was literally a server wide joke. Also IB and TMO only really competed in VP for a month or two before IB left te server, where as DA (and the subsequent DJ david deere guilds) competed for like a year and a half.

I'm not denying TMO dominated late game Kunark for a huge period of time, just pointing out that every single time period in which IB was present they either were, or quickly became the #1 guild on the server. I'd consider that dominance.

DA competed in classic and were absorbed by TMO.

Kunark release date was March 2011

TMO absorbed DA June 2011

I mean if you call competing for 4 mobs in classic as competitive as competing in Kunark or Velious.. Your opinion is very flawed. I also am talking about TMO vs IB that lasted for over a year. You know the most competitive time the server has seen considering even Class R guilds were competing on FFA mobs. 2014-2015. Seems like you are the one who is confused here about what the discussion is or what is being discussed.

[Valura]

red guild names are much better than blue server's

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO farmed uncontested because TR/IB left.

When IB came back, it was neck and neck, and when Ramp formed, TMO lost like 60 VP dragons in a row.

How many dragon kills did IB get in VP post rotation (train wars) IB was ineffectual in VP without the rotation, which is why they left. Didn't rampage form years into VP farming after most of the core TMO players stopped playing from loot glut and boredom? Your points are really stupid.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know the most competitive time the server has seen considering even Class R guilds were competing on FFA mobs. 2014-2015. Seems like you are the one who is confused here about what the discussion is or what is being discussed.

Do you mean FE? Yes, there was a short period of time prior to velious when a few IB came back in preparation for velious. No one gave a shit about competing for 5 year old kunark content at that point. Note those same IB people formed rampage and dominated velious, which was their entire goal all along. I was an officer of FE at the time and remember it well... competition for 5 year old kunark content was no where near as competitive as IB vs DA. You're delusional if you think people were playing at the top of their game at that point.. no one really cared about stale content.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just a grossly false statement. Nothing was more competitive than IB vs TMO in the VP FTE days. That is just a fact. TMO before those days were a good guild. However, they also had the benefit of being able to train with the larger raid force in VP to keep competition at bay. The other guilds weren't on equal footing with them because of the time they had for uncontested mobs. A great guild yes. But they really didn't have an equal raid force contesting them for much of that time. So we will never know if they could have matched up without that training ability in place.

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were you around for DA vs IB? Because your join date indicates you weren't. DA got competitive around april/may of 2010, a full year before your join date. Not sure how you can compare two time periods when you didn't experience one of them.

I can back up signal's statement. I was around.

TMO is clearly the most dominant guild by quite a lot. I'd put IB waaay ahead of Rampage though. IB dominated stale Classic and Early Kunark content before TMO was even made. VP was brand new when IB quit far far from stale content. (People still thought Velious was on the horizon too ROFL).

TMO didn't need a larger raid force to keep IB dead. Zeelot held IB(new TR) when you decided to break a rotation while TMO finished a sky raid. 1 person.

You're arguments are false and scream of some neckbeard trying to defend his "wounded video game honor". Facts are facts though.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're arguments are false and scream of some neckbeard trying to defend his "wounded video game honor". Facts are facts though.

Bored and trying to kill time at work before the long weekend, but its nice to see some old faces shit posting on rnf again. Also you're wrong, but thats to be expected from TMO spin masters. Now we just need Tiggles and Eccezan to show up.

[Metalopolis]

Whichever guild I'm currently in is the correct answer. Obviously.