What did people dislike most about luclin?

[thufir]

Originally Posted by icedwards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think anyone's trying to tell you how to enjoy your time on this server. People, raiders or casuals, are entitled to whatever opinion they want about the future of the server. Anyone expecting content beyond Velious is setting themselves up for disappointment though.

I agree with you on all particulars.

Daldaen was like "I don't understand why anyone cares about the low level game or that Paludal Caverns killed it" and that's what my subsequent posts were about.

I think it's fine to raid or be casual here, and nobody should expect Luclin. That's what we signed up for, and that's what we're getting.

[mr_jon3s]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iunno, having one central where everyone flocks at is kinda meh.
Makes cities empty. See: PoKnowledge.

Most cities are empty on p99 with most people flocking to EC. People are always going to gather into one place because it just makes it easier to get what you want.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have to agree that EC tunnel in 2016 sucks ass because of things like p99auctions. By normalizing prices it constricts liquidity and and sours people's attitudes making them feel like someone is trying to swindle them for offering to sell/but at a price deviating from the value advertised on the site by some nerd cycling wtb/wts /auctions across 10 different characters.

If it wasn't for them damned kids gettin on my lawn all the time!!!!!!!

You're right about p99auctions being just as easily manipulated as every other attempt to "keep EC profiteers honest".

Whoever was complaining about raider mentality, welcome to the year 2000. The "kids" who get active playing EQ during Kunark really pushed the hell out of that attitude, my friends and I used to blame it on tham having grown up playing video games. We were, of course, far superior in all ways having been socialized into gaming via pen&paper roleplaying and board wargames, those damned kids shoulda stayed off our lawn dammit!

Luclin sucked tho. The models were ok, but the animations were utter crap, and the old low-level game was given the same treatment as the raid game had already received earlier, destroyed by the "Hey look guys! It's Shinier! It Trivializes Old Content! Did We Mention That It's Shinier?!!!" that Verant/SOE used to sell new expansion packs.

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What did I dislike most about Luclin?



That. Higher polygon counts may have been desired, but the new models, monsters and locations were so ugly that they defeated the purpose. I believe a much better approach would've involved maintaining the original art style but with higher polygon counts, rather than fundamentally altering the game's appearance. I hated even having to look at the "new and improved" graphics. I disliked numerous other things about that expansion--cats on the moon, mounts, alphabet soup monster names, class balancing turned into an endless grind, stat bloat, and other issues I don't care to list at the moment. However, the hideous appearance of everything definitely sits at the top of my most disliked list for Luclin.

I write the above as someone who believes Luclin had some good in it. As a whole, Luclin wasn't a hopeless concept. I believe a good expansion was in there, peeking out from behind the layers of trash, trying to get out--but never got the chance.

Danth

[Zekayy]

I also hate the iksar luclin fd it's just not the same

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make p99 great again. Bring on Shadows of Luclin.

Go play live if you want that

[Boonsly]

Awful zone design too. Hallways with merbs in em. Yay.

What's a merb?

[Sporkotron]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most cities are empty on p99 with most people flocking to EC. People are always going to gather into one place because it just makes it easier to get what you want.

This simply isn't true to the extent it was on live. Go to any city on p99 and you'll at very least find a couple of 1 - 9 players leveling up in their newbie zone. After the nexus and especially after PoK on EQlive all those old beloved zones were completely empty at all hours.

That's what adding shit like Paludal caverns and the Nexus does, turns the actual classic content into ghost towns via convenience. It totally goes against the purpose of P99, which is to preserve the classic EQ experience.

[mr_jon3s]

Originally Posted by Sporkotron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This simply isn't true to the extent it was on live. Go to any city on p99 and you'll at very least find a couple of 1 - 9 players leveling up in their newbie zone. After the nexus and especially after PoK on EQlive all those old beloved zones were completely empty at all hours.

That's what adding shit like Paludal caverns and the Nexus does, turns the actual classic content into ghost towns via convenience. It totally goes against the purpose of P99, which is to preserve the classic EQ experience.

Yes you may find a couple on p99 but most end up in the EC area. Back in the day most noobie zones were filled with noobs till most people figured out the best places to level.

[Sporkotron]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes you may find a couple on p99 but most end up in the EC area. Back in the day most noobie zones were filled with noobs till most people figured out the best places to level.

Yup, they're nowhere near as filled as EQlive, no sense making the situation tremendously worse by adding content that makes all other cites and zones obsolete like ShadowHaven and PC.