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Old 10-09-2017, 11:17 AM
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THEY are the ones that broke the rules, not us.
I appreciate your take on this, and I know that I have to abide by the staff's ruling even if I think it's wrong. But, please explain how I broke rules.

We were waiting for Grizlin to spawn (kinda the definition of camping). We were in the zone before BG (kinda gives us the edge on a dispute). We engaged the mob shortly after it spawned (the definition of maintaining a camp).
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:24 AM
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:27 AM
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I'm glad OP is feeling better about himself.

Been sharing this thread around my office this morning and everyone is getting a good laugh out of it.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:30 AM
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This sounds more fun than raiding in A/A where half the mobs are rotated.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:32 AM
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Yes, it's probably true that you were able to engage the mob first when it spawned, but my wife was there waiting for it to spawn, just inside Tash range, wondering what the hell you guys were doing. Grizlin Bloodfang is not an FTE mob. If you wanted the next spawn, maybe call a camp check? We were in the zone, looking forward to his respawn when you arrived.

I would always agree when someone says that it's not OK to charm a mob that is obviously engaged, this is common knowledge. That wasn't really the case here. Enchanter was far enough away that melee animations are not drawn on the client. She thought you guys were maybe going to charm the mob for yourselves. If you had done that, she'd have asked me what to do next and I'd have told her to just charm something else. But instead you guys just acted like you wanted to kill him for loot or exp... which you would have been welcome to only a few minutes later when we were finished with him.



I never admitted I was stalling. At no time during the encounter was I just running around because I could not do anything else. I landed slow right about the time you guys arrived and started whining. Shortly after that I let him close to melee range to torpor tank and stick some dots while waiting for the ENC to arrive with the pet.

AGGal says, 'we were only stalling because Lodizal had killed the gnolls. We were waiting for them to spawn.

FTFY. IIRC, we had the gnoll charmed and the turtle nearly dead when staff arrived and despawned it, to my great surprise. You guys were holding your dicks in your hands.

Cut down your post a bit. But ya, you admit to stalling, your wife straight says "stalling". And I'm sorry if she's a bit of a noob and used a poor choice of words, it's still stalling.
You claim at no time were you kiting without being able to do anything else. But she straight up said, in not so many words, that you were kiting in circles because you couldn't do anything else UNTILL the gnoll spawned.

You also admit to knowing it's wrong to charm an engaged mob but not knowing it's against the rules?!? Right..... I'm sure you weren't aware that that is technically considered a KS, even if your willing to "let them kill it when our done with it"and there is absolutely no way for ANYONE to cast tash and charm on a mob without targeting it. If it was targeted you can see its hp, regardless of if your "outside melee animation range" (which, really? Your claiming this as a thing?) therefore you knew it was engaged and chose to charm it anyway. A clear, and undeniable violation of the rules. Because guess what, EVERY MOB IN THIS GAME IS AN FTE MOB, regardless of if it has an FTE message, and regardless of wether or not you think "it should really be a camp".

And to top it all off, you give BG shit for "standing with there dicks in there hands" after you charm KS'ed them and used it to kill Lodi. So your making fun of them for not making a bad situation worse and trying to KS back by taking Lodi? Would have given you some ground to stand on if they had sure. But guess what, they didn't, because they knew it was against the rules.

Congrats, you suck at arguing, BG outplayed you, you got butt hurt, came to rants and flames to try to make them look bad (something I thought AG was above) and then just made yourselfs look like idiots in my, and others opinions. Sure, you got some people throwing salt on it with you, but everyone knows AG hates BG, maybe it has to do with BG having 25% of the numbers and contesting AG on some of there mobs, I don't know, but I do know I think it's funny watching inbox yell concede as soon as a BG enters whatever zone he's trying to raid in.

Things have apparently changed for AG, I don't ever remember seeing them in RNF, and I don't ever remember them crying wolf with bullshit concessions.

Is this the new AG meta game, cry wolf and RNF till we get mobs again?
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:32 AM
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Now I've heard that on red, this wouldn't be a problem. Could somebody please confirm or deny?
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:33 AM
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This sounds more fun than raiding in A/A where half the mobs are rotated.
Right? What's the point in Classic EQ if you don't want competition and are going to ks and then cry to the forums when someone is able to effectively negate your strategy.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:34 AM
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I appreciate your take on this, and I know that I have to abide by the staff's ruling even if I think it's wrong. But, please explain how I broke rules.

We were waiting for Grizlin to spawn (kinda the definition of camping). We were in the zone before BG (kinda gives us the edge on a dispute). We engaged the mob shortly after it had been engaged by people that weren't us (the definition of maintaining a camp).
Fixed it for you, now if you read it you will understand how you are in the wrong.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:42 AM
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competition = intentionally screwing over other players for your own gain

hehe
This is the culture that the project management has fostered here for years, so people need to get on board and get over it. Whether it's Lodi or some other contested target, you've got to be on your game. Sounds like the BG guys knew their opponent's strategy, and they did what they could to increase their chances of getting a shot at the mob they wanted within the exhaustive rules of the game. This is competition. AG took the bait, in the process breaking rules, and they paid the price - even with AG claiming to be 'camping' Grizlin, BG somehow tagged it first? Learn and play better next time. We don't all have to be friends here.

I'm not associated with either party.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:59 AM
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This is the culture that the project management has fostered here for years, so people need to get on board and get over it. Whether it's Lodi or some other contested target, you've got to be on your game. Sounds like the BG guys knew their opponent's strategy, and they did what they could to increase their chances of getting a shot at the mob they wanted within the exhaustive rules of the game. This is competition. AG took the bait, in the process breaking rules, and they paid the price - even with AG claiming to be 'camping' Grizlin, BG somehow tagged it first? Learn and play better next time. We don't all have to be friends here.

I'm not associated with either party.
well at least you're impartial in arguing in favor of cancer. that's something.
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