ninja looting does not mean you make the rules

[Koota]

Based on your screenshot, you rolled for an item WELL AFTER it was distributed. For what ever reason you did not roll, or at least roll a 99 until way later down the road. Hence the chat taking place in the screenshot, and where the roll appears.

Personally, I've never known this server to be a NBG situation. Unless its NO DROP or is predetermined beforehand with friends or guild mates. Sounds like you felt entitled to it, simply because it was an item you could use. And because the rules didn't cater to that, this shit storm began.

At the end of the day, that group was a greed rolling group. Period. And when time came that an item dropped YOU really wanted, it suddenly wasn't ok?

That's what I'm gathering from this.

[quido]

What about like GEBs? I have gotten several GEBs on this server and sold most of them. If I join some rando efreeti group, whether for experience or for loot, I expect a roll on anything that drops. The exception to this is if I'm with some pals/guildies in which case most people sort of agree to let the people who have never gotten GEBs get items before those who have. Need before greed is often assumed when it shouldn't be.

Let's say I'm on my enchanter in a random Crypt group and a JBB drops. Do I automatically get this because my main is a shaman? I need it! No, sorry. It goes to whomever rolls the highest. Often "need" is arguable too. So unless otherwise stated and unanimously agreed upon, it's /random 100 for everybody.

[Lazortag]

This isn't a guild issue; I wish people would stop making it one.

From the facts it's very clear that Ledzepp should give Goragu the cleaver. A screenshot shows him rolling a 99, which by Ledzepp's own rules, makes him the rightful winner of the item. Ledzepp's justification that Goragu wasn't worthy of it because he wasn't a good enough tank, is something I've never seen a precedent for in any group I've ever been in. I'm pretty sure most people here have never used "who is a better player" as a loot system in a PUG. If guilds want to distribute loot that way, that's fine, because officers in a guild can be trusted to make those evaluations about their own members. But for Ledzepp to unilaterally decide that Goragu wasn't good enough with no input from the group, reflects really poorly on him and shows he was willing to abrogate the rules that he himself claims he was upholding.

Moreover, it was wrong of him to roll on an item against another member of the group when Ledzepp couldn't use it. Even if the rules said he could, it was still wrong, despite whether Goragu did the same thing with an item he also wouldn't use. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Salty]

If I join some rando efreeti group, whether for experience or for loot, I expect a roll on anything that drops.

That's how wizards end up with JBBs.

"Derp lets greed all the loot"


If there is a shaman there, give the shm his loot. If there is no shaman, everyone randoms.

When shit drops, it goes to the classes in the group that can use it first, greed second.


The problem comes into play when people are trying to beat a shm at getting their own loot. This should tell you that everyone in the group is a fuckbag and you should probably leave.

[Teeroyoyort]

I'm going to point this out since most of you guys are obviously fucking retarded. It was clearly pointed out that the SK wanted the item (before and after initial rolls). Why would you not wait for him to roll? Do you think he decided to PASS on the item he wanted really bad? Give me a fucking a break.... Things were wrapped up a lil too quickly.

[Salty]

JBB drops. Do I automatically get this because my main is a shaman? I need it! No, sorry. It goes to whomever rolls the highest.

Goes to the shaman first, if no shm then the highest.

Universal.

[Swordsly]

Originally Posted by Koota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hack at this game, poorly. I was caught and banned. But it was still funny batphoning DA for a phantom CT!

Fixed

[PureLo]

If that was looted anytime today aka 3/29 then it isn't a server first. I looted one with my group yesterday 3/28 and seeing how camped Karnor's has been since launch i am sure more have dropped.

[quido]

Everyone is a fuckbag, idiot, or jerk until proven otherwise.

[Koota]

Originally Posted by Swordsly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed

Close.


I hacked at this game in the past, poorly. I was caught and banned. But it was still funny batphoning DA for a phantom draco!



At least get the facts straight if you're going to try and bash me, bro.