Any good guides for GINA?

[Niedar]

Flappy Paddles are classic.

[Gustoo]

The worst thing about using these things is missing the granular efficiency when it's gone.

Get used to spell sets. They go away. You regret not having 6 perfectly crafted preloaded spellsets
Get used to permanent compass. It goes away. You regret having to hit sense heading now.

[bwe]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"It doesn't restore functionality to the UI it just puts that functionality back onto your UI while you're playing" is incredibly pedantic and would only be argued by somebody who knows exactly what they're doing and knows that it flies in the face of the very purpose of this server.

Yup

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by Niedar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im happy cheating, thanks.

See? Not that hard. Just own up and move on.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I was lucky to have a 19inch CRT. Won it in a Air Warrior tournament. Most people still had 13inch. Imagine having multiple CRTs on a desk? Be lucky if 2 fit.

I was talking about current day, how going through effort to stop overlays wouldn't stop use of a program like Gina.

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it good lord? When people start discriminating against classes for performing less or pushing people out because they are at 998 dps instead of a new 1000 dps minimum limit for raiding, does that not hinder fun?

I understand your fun comment. But that usually why play nice policies exist.

I can't reply to this without getting political.

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its not straight cheating per se, that would be using ShowEQ. A legit cheat program.

This is more laziness. To prop up a bad player who can't keep track. Its the same argument of manual transmission vs. Flappy Paddle transmission. Yes, using the flappy paddles is superior, the driver doesn't have to worry about errors as much but it will never be the same as a good manual driver.

They should admit the truth, they like using crutches and don't understand what the big deal is. That one poster said that (someone says that in each of these threads). Maybe they can't play EQ without them.

Edit: I am not sure, I don't understand, the comprehension is beyond my intellectual reasoning... of why you like it.

That's a good analogy that accurately reflects my feelings on the subject. Just because I feel log parsers should be allowed does not mean that I don't think buff timer overlays and alerts are a crutch for a less than competent player.

[Daud]

Calling something that has been confirmed (currerntly) as GTG is just sounds so incredibly stupid and dishonest.

It isn't cheating. I know you want very, very badly for it to be considered cheating, but it isn't. I can see it's a very personal issue for some of you, so much that you're willing to just say anything and everything you can regardless if it's true or not to get what you want.

Here's some info for you. You know all those evil "third party programs" like MQ/SEQ/etc that are banned here and considered cheating? There are servers out there that allow you to use those programs by name. Using those programs on those servers that allow it are not cheating. GINA on P99 is no different, even if the devs don't personally like it, at least they have the dignity to not be a bag of dicks about it like some of you.

The same applies here. On high has confirmed GINA is not currently against the rules. Calling people cheaters for using a legal program is nothing but trolling and shit stirring by people who are incapable of approaching a subject they do not like with honesty or integrity. Even if part of me could actually get on board with finding some non-intrusive way to get rid of GINA, I'd still find you dishonest idiots fucking abhorrent.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Daud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's some info for you. You know all those evil "third party programs" like MQ/SEQ/etc that are banned here and considered cheating? There are servers out there that allow you to use those programs by name. Using those programs on those servers that allow it are not cheating.

Using cheat codes built into a single player game is still cheating because it's not the way that the base game experience is intended to be.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was talking about current day, how going through effort to stop overlays wouldn't stop use of a program like Gina.




I can't reply to this without getting political.

Its not a real request to stop it, Tecmos. No use trying to figure out how to. This is a thought exercise in how introducing things like this can split a community that wouldn't be without it.

Some trolls here on the forums got me to thinking about how many advantages players have now compared to back then. Some of the trolls want to troll harder and suggest needing the CRT monitors (the really good ones are still nice) and using 56K dialup. Some things are not practical.

People have argued that because RogerWilco released in 1999 that voice chat should be allowed. Some have argued that even though it was out that it really wasn't all that usable. This is a thought exercise. People like crutches.

People have argued because some parsers that could check DPS (I never heard of one check loot logs etc.. i wonder if original developers ever commented on that) that later programs like GINA that display an overlay in real time are ok. Here we are saying its lame. Thought exercise.

Does it bother me in my game? Nope.
But I am aware other people are out there playing the same game with additional *useless* information. We are not playing the same game. Maybe you are getting a heads up about something whereas I am keeping a mental track of it subject to human failure.

[Danth]

Most of the same arguments supporting "gina" could be applied to things like packet sniffers that don't directly interact with the client. But that's nothing new....terrible players have always tended to make any mental gymnastics needed to justify their use of training wheels. They're terrified of the notion of having a level playing field because they know, deep down, they can't hack it.

Danth