Monk or Ranger for soloing melee?

[Frug]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi there, I am a bard, I can run speed buff myself at lvl 5 and kite reds endlessly without any downtime much faster than any ranger. Bow kiting is not going to allow you to speed level faster than most other classes and definitely not a monk. You sir are dilusional.

In theory. But until you get your second AOE dot, that shit is not fast, even with the maximum 4 mobs in tow.

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Frug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In theory. But until you get your second AOE dot, that shit is not fast, even with the maximum 4 mobs in tow.

It’s not theory, for example I did lvl 8-18 on teal quadding on my bard Occisa and it took less than 8 hrs for those 10 lvls solo unassisted and unbuffed.... show me a ranger that can do that.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s not theory, for example I did lvl 8-18 on teal quadding on my bard Occisa and it took less than 8 hrs for those 10 lvls solo unassisted and unbuffed.... show me a ranger that can do that.

BUT bards have an upper limit on what they can kill. Rangers don't.

Rangers also make AMAZING duo partners with pet classes, since the ranger can flame lick agro kite....and then let the mage or necro pet bash the bananas out of anything they are fighting (so at level 40 killing higher level things that a duo normally wouldn't be able to do....and definitely not as fast).

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BUT bards have an upper limit on what they can kill. Rangers don't.

Rangers also make AMAZING duo partners with pet classes, since the ranger can flame lick agro kite....and then let the mage or necro pet bash the bananas out of anything they are fighting (so at level 40 killing higher level things that a duo normally wouldn't be able to do....and definitely not as fast).

Bard can aggro kite mana free... and fear and mez for casters also pump mana for said caster...and a ranger is single kiting a deep red(6+ levels) which would take forever and not being quadded. Rangers are not fast soloers nor powerful soloers, sure they can kill a high lvl non summoning mob 10+ levels over them but it’ll take a really long time and isn’t really a viable leveling strategy. I’m not really seeing your point. More over as a bard I can charm mana free a mob and sick it on the deep red while spamming snare on it too kill a red faster than a ranger dinking and dunking.

[Wallicker]

Go bow kite Allizewsaur to death on teal/green on your lower lvl ranger and make a video unbuffed, unassisted, and regardless of whether I think rangers are good soloers I will be impressed by your sheer will and determination.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go bow kite Allizewsaur to death on teal/green on your lower lvl ranger and make a video unbuffed, unassisted, and regardless of whether I think rangers are good soloers I will be impressed by your sheer will and determination.

Oh no....you've given me a new target.... maybe not solo it, but I'm gonna take my level 10 with a bow to face the great beast! With one or two more people!

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh no....you've given me a new target.... maybe not solo it, but I'm gonna take my level 10 with a bow to face the great beast! With one or two more people!

Make sure to fraps it, you should do it solo. Corpse a few corpses with stacks of arrows lol

[YendorLootmonkey]

I'm on my 3rd time leveling a ranger... on Live, on Blue, and now Teal... if you're looking for fast and efficient soloing, a ranger isn't it. At least until we get Panic Animal in Velious. The archery, kill speed, and mana costs being talked about here are being overhyped and over-exaggerated.

Sorry, Ivory, but when you're talking about a ranger sowing themselves at level 30, you're not talking Classic.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm on my 3rd time leveling a ranger... on Live, on Blue, and now Teal... if you're looking for fast and efficient soloing, a ranger isn't it. At least until we get Panic Animal in Velious. The archery, kill speed, and mana costs being talked about here are being overhyped and over-exaggerated.

Sorry, Ivory, but when you're talking about a ranger sowing themselves at level 30, you're not talking Classic.

Not overhyped! Bows is really strong.

But, yea, I was thinking later for the sow.....not a big deal though, just get jboots or grab sow potions. 100 plats get you 5 hours of sow.... you can make that in a few hill giants, so for an archer no big deal, you can take them down at any level within about 10 minutes in some areas.

I know I was STILL using invoke lighting a lot at level 54 on my ranger for AE kiting while also bowing. So I know how handy that spell is, and just super overlooked.

[Wallicker]

Enchanter, bard, magician, wizard, Druid, necro, shaman are all better soloers than a ranger imo. Ranger might be above Paladin warrior rogue and maybe shadowknight. So not even top 5 soloer and not the best hybrid soloer which is a bard.