Patch Notes: Friday, December 23rd, 2022

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Vsai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean: Bards are now capped at 140 aggro per song/spell/proc in all circumstances.

I have been waiting for the above change since the clickie/aggro nerfs research was accepted. The issue is the numbers don't appear to align with the accepted research.

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39819


"Non-damaging detrimental bard song hate seems to be capped 40 on level 20+ NPCs."
"The bard cap of 40 also applies to clickable items."

Was that a typo in the patch notes? Or is there new source material we need to look at?

That is really helpful, thank you for link. Now just hope they don't nerf the swing agro bonus for offhand weps lol

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Vsai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean: Bards are now capped at 140 aggro per song/spell/proc in all circumstances.

I have been waiting for the above change since the clickie/aggro nerfs research was accepted. The issue is the numbers don't appear to align with the accepted research.

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39819

"Non-damaging detrimental bard song hate seems to be capped 40 on level 20+ NPCs."
"The bard cap of 40 also applies to clickable items."

Was that a typo in the patch notes? Or is there new source material we need to look at?

I'm also curious

[Encroaching Death]

Anyone else noticed a decrease in aggro with SK?

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone else noticed a decrease in aggro with SK?

[Renault]

Where's the classic justification for nerfing bard aggro generation?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Renault [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where's the classic justification for nerfing bard aggro generation?

Did you follow the link in post 70?

[wuanahto]

Does Titanium have LDoN in it? I remember an agro nerf to spells that was enemy level dependent vs the level of the spell learned in it.

Like Paladin Stun(30) and Holy Might(49) was not affect.. effective at level 60/65. There were also way later spells called Cease(9) and Desist(15) for paladin stuns that were shit for agro past a certain level.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by wuanahto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does Titanium have LDoN in it? I remember an agro nerf to spells that was enemy level dependent vs the level of the spell learned in it.

Like Paladin Stun(30) and Holy Might(49) was not affect.. effective at level 60/65. There were also way later spells called Cease(9) and Desist(15) for paladin stuns that were shit for agro past a certain level.

That kinda stuff would be calculated server side so the client used oughtn't make a difference. I imagine.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by wuanahto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does Titanium have LDoN in it? I remember an agro nerf to spells that was enemy level dependent vs the level of the spell learned in it.

Like Paladin Stun(30) and Holy Might(49) was not affect.. effective at level 60/65. There were also way later spells called Cease(9) and Desist(15) for paladin stuns that were shit for agro past a certain level.

Cease & Desist came out with Luclin release, so not "way later" but still out of era for this server. Can't recall when they introduced level caps on stuns, may have been during PoP (iirc there was a combat revamp during PoP), but the implementation was that if mob was immune to a spell it gave zero (or 1?) agro. However stuns were still great agro in Luclin, lazy paladins boasted about their "agro button" (macro that had all available zero damage stuns one per line, first one not on cooldown would get cast.) No idea why they'd nerf cast stun agro here.

[skwayb]

Where are these "OPTIONAL" Files to increase FPS. I don't see them in the zip file anywhere.