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Old 07-23-2011, 10:56 AM
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while i think the idea is cool..

i wouldnt implement it. just because it would dissuade new players from joining the server.

if i stumbled upon the EQEMU project and was considering firing up a 11 year old game for a nostalgia kick (little do they know their soul will belong to Rogean for the next 2 years) i wouldn't want to start out by giving my phone number to some random guys i don't know.

seriously... what's the problem with using email? make it OPTIONAL to even use this phone # password-reset-system. then only the ppl who are afraid of losing their account will sign up (which will admittedly be not many ppl) and then they can cry about it if it actually does happen.

maybe make a reminder for ppl every once in awhile, or each time their character dings levels between 50 and 60, it could give a message suggesting they do it. This will give new players some time to play and build trust in the server and the project. (i guess this could only apply to the servers you run yourself rogean, but still..)


SO: please make it optional and not mandatory. in the interest of getting new players into the game. (maybe you could make it mandatory just for p1999/red99 to have a character over level 50 or something)
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:08 AM
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Seeing how difficult it is currently to get a password reset on a stolen account I fully support this SMS account authentication.
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:44 AM
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Some of us are serving overseas and don't have access to cell phones.... Hopefully some type of exception can be made in the unlikely event that a password reset ends up being needed.

Thanks!
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:27 AM
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The big deal is people without cell phones. I'd gladly give my name and address, but I cant give a cell phone number.

Also, any new people coming to the server will see they have to provide their cell phone and decide its not worth it. This will decimate the future of p1999 by not only excluding those who choose not to have cell phones, but with the amount of people already who would rather not give out their personal information to a emu server I could only imagine that would add up to hundreds of potential new players in the future lost if not more.

I know for a fact if p1999 had this system in place before I joined here I would of never signed up.
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:16 PM
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Sounds good, except a phone alternative would be nice..
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:30 PM
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Lol so many crybabies...wow.
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:47 PM
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The idea is solid simply to add another layer of security to an account for those that want it. The people that opt-in for that sort of thing generally aren't the ones that cry about their accounts getting "hacked" in the first place however.

While I personally would use this system on my accounts for login verification, just for peace of mind, I can understand the objections to it. The EQEmu community isn't, in my opinion, very "noob" friendly in terms of setting up to play here. Adding this in will surely dissuade some new/current players. Just look at all of the people crying about not having a cell phone because they couldn't make it through reading an entire post first.

Now, that brings me to another point. If people are simply going to use free VoIP alternatives, such as throw-away Google voice accounts, it really defeats the original purpose of personal identification and password recovery. Quite simply, it will be just as likely someone loses their account information for the VoIP as it was them losing their email info, which in Google's case, is one in the same.

I still think it's a solid idea, though I'm going to have to side with the people that want it to be entirely optional. Putting in an opt-out option on the account creation process with a disclaimer warning that it's not advised and that the account will likely be unrecoverable if passwords are lost is a better alternative to this being mandatory.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:33 PM
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So much reading failure in this thread.
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:54 PM
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The idea is solid simply to add another layer of security to an account for those that want it. The people that opt-in for that sort of thing generally aren't the ones that cry about their accounts getting "hacked" in the first place however.

While I personally would use this system on my accounts for login verification, just for peace of mind, I can understand the objections to it. The EQEmu community isn't, in my opinion, very "noob" friendly in terms of setting up to play here. Adding this in will surely dissuade some new/current players. Just look at all of the people crying about not having a cell phone because they couldn't make it through reading an entire post first.

Now, that brings me to another point. If people are simply going to use free VoIP alternatives, such as throw-away Google voice accounts, it really defeats the original purpose of personal identification and password recovery. Quite simply, it will be just as likely someone loses their account information for the VoIP as it was them losing their email info, which in Google's case, is one in the same.

I still think it's a solid idea, though I'm going to have to side with the people that want it to be entirely optional. Putting in an opt-out option on the account creation process with a disclaimer warning that it's not advised and that the account will likely be unrecoverable if passwords are lost is a better alternative to this being mandatory.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:12 AM
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I'm kind of shocked at how many people are paranoid about using their phone number. I'm pretty paranoid about posting shit online that can ID me, but I don't see the issue here. Hell, I'd almost not even be concerned about posting my phone number on this forum for everyone to see. Almost.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people acting paranoid use the same password for P99 as they do for their e-mail or some other important stuff, lol.
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