Bring back the Dark Men of Odus

[ya.dingus]

All flimsy pretense in what is 100% a politically motivated ban. Moderation just didn't want to put up with it, and the obfuscation of any actual real evidence behind accusations is telling.

Moderation on p99 is not subject to transparency, so these kind of rulings will always be suspicious as with no transparency comes no accountability.

It's a tale as old as time.

[Duik]

Start the guild, or shut the hell up.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Start the guild, or shut the hell up.

No point. Bellringer's army of pitchfork libtards would badger CSR to no end.

[Duik]

Shutting up is the only option then for the intelligent man!

And lolocaust for bellringers pitchfork libtard army.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with the racism argument is that at no point in any channel, whether in-game, on the forums, or in Discord did any member of DMO ever make any racist statements. Nor were they ever banned or disciplined for racism. If they hadn't intentionally deleted the UN channel then they'd likely still be around.

Originally Posted by Loramin

You have access to everything every DMO member has ever said?

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was never a single report made about racist statements made in game chat.

Dude, just answer the question: do you or do you not have access to every chat statement the guild members have ever made?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, just answer the question: do you or do you not have access to every chat statement the guild members have ever made?

It's a bad faith question though. Because it's nonsensical. Of course none of us have access to EVERY SINGLE message EVERY SINGLE member of DMO ever typed.

What we DO have is all the messages they have ever put out in public channels, which never included racism. What we DO have is the fact that there were never any petitions submitted about racism in any P99 chat medium, whether in game or otherwise and that they were not banned for racism but rather for deleting the UN channel to troll Menden.

For the record, I never said these were good people, but from the day the guild was created they weren't making racist statements. Know how you know? Because if they had, you Loramin would be keeping a record of them in some file on your computer to throw out in posts like these. Because you live for shit like that.

At any rate, you were whining about freedom of speech in Off Topic. Seems like you like to pick and choose when that can apply lol

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a bad faith question though. Because it's nonsensical. Of course none of us have access to EVERY SINGLE message EVERY SINGLE member of DMO ever typed.

What we DO have is all the messages they have ever put out in public channels, which never included racism. What we DO have is the fact that there were never any petitions submitted about racism in any P99 chat medium, whether in game or otherwise and that they were not banned for racism but rather for deleting the UN channel to troll Menden.

For the record, I never said these were good people, but from the day the guild was created they weren't making racist statements. Know how you know? Because if they had, you Loramin would be keeping a record of them in some file on your computer to throw out in posts like these. Because you live for shit like that.

At any rate, you were whining about freedom of speech in Off Topic. Seems like you like to pick and choose when that can apply lol

well said

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a bad faith question though. Because it's nonsensical. Of course none of us have access to EVERY SINGLE message EVERY SINGLE member of DMO ever typed.

What we DO have is all the messages they have ever put out in public channels, which never included racism. What we DO have is the fact that there were never any petitions submitted about racism in any P99 chat medium, whether in game or otherwise and that they were not banned for racism but rather for deleting the UN channel to troll Menden.

For the record, I never said these were good people, but from the day the guild was created they weren't making racist statements. Know how you know? Because if they had, you Loramin would be keeping a record of them in some file on your computer to throw out in posts like these. Because you live for shit like that.

At any rate, you were whining about freedom of speech in Off Topic. Seems like you like to pick and choose when that can apply lol

So you claimed DMO never said anything racist ... with no basis for that claim?

(And the reason I don't have a "record in some file on my computer" is because I don't go around making false claims that require such a file.)

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you claimed DMO never said anything racist ... with no basis for that claim?

(And the reason I don't have a "record in some file on my computer" is because I don't go around making false claims that require such a file.)

So you’re asking me to prove a negative? lol what

Why do you keep ignoring your double standard when it comes to freedom of speech?

[Cecily]

Do you have access to any quote that proves your point?