Shadows of Luclin Your opinion?

[Cujoy]

I seem to remember one thing about Luclin, that was it was the most buggy launch of the expansions. I seem to remember hot patch after hot patch after hot patch. I think that pretty much killed it for me. But On the plus side I agree with whoever brought up rangers and wizards coming into their own during this time. But more importantly there were some worn effects from high end items I found pretty desirable. Other than that the whole expansion was pretty forgettable if you ask me.

[valithteezee]

I remember we tried killing some of the boss mobs in Griegs End and ended up wiping at like 5%. Some of the lewts thre were pretty good, but overall is seemed like the zone wasn't really utilized like it should have been. I agree though it was a pretty creepy zone, very unique feel to it.

[Sslaesha]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I didn't like trolls getting kicked out of Grobb either.

I'd rather just get Frogs, don't care if they start out in OoT fresh off a slave boat. Long as I could play one.


also <3 amelinda every time she turns me into one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure Amelinda is the best, ever... period

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how someone could possibly dislike Grieg's End, it was easily one of the best zones in Luclin. I hate boring copy/paste style dungeons, but the multiple generic looking hall/room feel of Grieg's End was the point. It was a crazy weird zone where players/mobs turned into random things, and full of creepy ass sounds. One of the most atmospheric and dark zones in EQ. It was also one of the most underutilized zones in Luclin so unfortunately not many got to see it except for spending 5 seconds inside after training from Dawnshroud.

Of couse eventually it was revamped and made into a hot zone / loot pinata and everything that was awesome about the zone was removed. I'm sorry if that's the version of Grieg's End any of you saw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Are you quitting p99 emu because you twinked that ERU SK with 60K and then they announced that they weren't going to copy blue server toons on to the red99 beta?

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[Athosblack]

I like this thread.

[insertname]

Here's a though, just nix the cats & zones - period. Keep BL & AA, .DLL kill the new models like was done with maps and spell sets however, easier said then done I'm sure.

What would be ideal to keep Velious the top tier content and such, though perhaps cherry picking zones like original Grieg's End, Ssra ECT.

On an off note, there was one zone I pretty much lived in on my BL, it was one where you had three faction vying for control. You as the PC would be the facilitator and have to help defend (or was it attack I forget). I did the whole thing multiple times and had a blast.. sided with all three factions (that took work) and it was actually some of the best fun I had in EQ - cause and effect... an impact in / on the game world and watching the NPC faction wars was fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I forget the name... Owls where a faction I think...and some goblin things - kind of fuzzy - this was a long time ago... Because of the play time in this zone is why I have such fond memories of my Barb BL.

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by insertname [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a though, just nix the cats & zones - period. Keep BL & AA, .DLL kill the new models like was done with maps and spell sets however, easier said then done I'm sure.

What would be ideal to keep Velious the top tier content and such, though perhaps cherry picking zones like original Grieg's End, Ssra ECT.

On an off note, there was one zone I pretty much lived in on my BL, it was one where you had three faction vying for control. You as the PC would be the facilitator and have to help defend (or was it attack I forget). I did the whole thing multiple times and had a blast.. sided with all three factions (that took work) and it was actually some of the best fun I had in EQ - cause and effect... an impact in / on the game world and watching the NPC faction wars was fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I forget the name... Owls where a faction I think...and some goblin things - kind of fuzzy - this was a long time ago... Because of the play time in this zone is why I have such fond memories of my Barb BL.

Oh every smith that tried to get through the low 200s of skill knew that zone very well. The Owlbear, Grimling, Sonic wolf war in (I think) Grimling Mountains. Gotdayum those shadowscream armor components being no drop. You'd be farming the Owlbear item and hope to hell that you could head off the attack from the grimlings or wolves. Then if you zoned in and the grimlings were up you'd have to wait for the right attack party to spawn and head over. Ugh.

I.
Hated.
That.

But I was simultaneously pleased with the zone event scripting. It went on ad infinitum.

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legacy of Ykesha...by far the absolute WORST expansion ever released for any MMO.

I swear. I rarely visited any of LoYkesha. It really was horrible.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I swear. I rarely visited any of LoYkesha. It really was horrible.

LDoN and LoY were both pretty damn poor...pretty equal imo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin definitely had some good points to it though. PoP was a pretty good expansion as well, the game should have basically ended at PoP.

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Kope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LDoN and LoY were both pretty damn poor...pretty equal imo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin definitely had some good points to it though. PoP was a pretty good expansion as well, the game should have basically ended at PoP.

I thought LDoN had some good concepts. At the time I wasn't in an uber guild or a real raiding guild. The idea of something instanced was welcomed by my group of regulars. I also didn't mind the alternate currency system introduced: getting so many shards per instance and then buying from the vendor for decent items.

LDoN was a casual-player-catered expansion and that alone would have made it unpopular to many. I have to confess, I could have taken LDoN or left it.

Nowadays, I hate alternate currencies in MMOs. If an NPC vendor sells something, make it buyable with the land's currency. It's a shortcut at solving the content-by-expansion problem. Instead of spending the time to design a new system that fits into the existing world, or updating the existing world to support a new subsystem, you can lock content to itself! Meh. I might vote for it if I were on the dev team and had major time constraints, but I'd feel dirty about it.