Cleaning Up Our Collective Act

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naw, I understand that.
I was talking about the people doing the hate posting (the ones who just don't give a shit what they say), not the people receiving.

Aha. Sorry.
Yeah, that's my point. There's no consequences for breaking the rules right now. These jackasses are laughing in the face of the GM posted rules at the expense of people who are experiencing the short end of the hate stick.

[Aarone]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Although honestly, people shouldn't let anything said to them over a forum post get to them no matter how ignorant or out of line.
Why you may ask? Because the people spewing the shit our of their mouths are the ones who have something to be ashamed of.

Hear, hear!!

[isitatomic]

I guess it's not surprising that most chose the personal attack route because it's so damn easy, instead of addressing the POLICY issue. Has it gone completely over your heads that I'm simply in support of a set of rules chosen by the developers of P99? Judging by everyone's reactions, it seems that if most any part of the forum rules appeared in some post, unlabeled, you'd be saying - "lol omg wtf is this butthurt QQ-ing?"

So, it's now blatantly obvious that GMs feel one way about conduct on their server, and the community generally could care less about their utopic, stalinist, pussified bullshit rules that will never be followed. THIS is the disconnect that needs to be addressed, not my supposed never-gonna-make-it-in-life inability to handle naughty words.

Let's:

1. ENFORCE the rules (mentioned ad nauseum already)
2. CHANGE the rules to be more realistic
3. SCRAP the rules altogether

I don't care HOW you feel about ME, I defy you to say that none of the above options are a needed solution.

Epilogue - A civil, well-considered post regarding the state of server conduct with supporting proof being moved to R&F is palpable irony. Also, you giving up with belligerent ignorance at work, at your friend's house, or wherever has absolutely nothing to do with me, it simply means that you apparently waffle easily. A lot of your cutesy netflexing may have intimidated other less vocal folks into sitting down and making promptly with the STFU, that just happens to not be my style. Nothing we say makes any difference anyhow until a GM gives enough of a shit to post something.

[jilena]

Originally Posted by JaVeDK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to disagree with you Jilena. Cleaning up ones language and acting civilized is the exact opposite of "dumbing" the conversation down. It's a testament to the sad decline of the English language (of which I am not even a native speaker BTW), that people are unable to communicate with proper words in a respectful manner. It seems that sounding cool and using the right buzz words and gangster slang is more important than the actual content. In many circles a well thought out and concisely formulated argument somehow loses out to an outrageous and, apparently, funny insult. I'm not saying that I never smile at a well crafted insult, but I cannot get behind the notion that it's somehow more interesting or cool to be a funny jerk than an intelligent gentleman.

My point wasn't so much that it's impossible to be funny without being vulgar so much as that almost all humor is at someone's expense. No matter what the topic is someone is bound to be offended. If we do away with everything that could possibly be construed as offensive we eventually reach a point that it gets to be ridiculous.

I am 100% with you in banning people who post nothing but complete shit or spew nothing but anger angst hate whatever... Again the occasional "EAT A BAG OF DICKS BITCH" is funny. But someone who posts nothing but "FAG!", "YOU FAIL AT LIFE", "I HOPE YOU DIE IRL", "CHOKE TO DEATH ON THAT DOUGHNUT FATTY!", "CRY MORE NOOB" in every single response is obviously not contributing to the forum in any meaningful manner. No one will miss these people. I just think being TOO strict is asking for a pretty fail boring place.

Also please consider that some of us have been dealing with people online for a LONG time, we are pretty desensitized to what some might find offensive. I mean I was looking at violent images, reading disturbing forum posts, and viewing scat porn on BBSes before some of the members of p99 (tralina for instance) were literally even born. It takes a LOT to offend me or gross me out. I have been to the internet, I have seen things, what has been seen cannot be unseen. As such I have a pretty twisted sense of humor and I am guessing this is also common in a good number of p99 folks.

This is not an excuse for acting the fool obviously, but disapproving of our indifference or tolerance of such behavior is a bit unfair. I can find much better things to be offended about and waste energy on than someone being called a faggot on a gaming message board. *shrug*

[isitatomic]

Also, about Hasbin's threads citing various people...


-If you support them, then SAY SO.

-If you think they are a ridiculous authoritarian witch hunt and general waste of time, then move to CHANGE OR SCRAP THE RULES.


It's not that complex a situation, folks. I for one ultimately don't care which happens.

[Bhutt]

Glad to see we have Hasbinbad here to "police" things.

There are times in life that people just need to suck things up. Listen kid, I'm sorry you've had a bad home life, people have picked on you, etc. Grow a sack. Go join the military or something.

Last I checked, it's America. If you're acting like a jackass I have every right to call you out on it.

You're acting no different in your postings then the people calling you names. In my opinion, you're worse.

[jilena]

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's:

1. ENFORCE the rules (mentioned ad nauseum already)
2. CHANGE the rules to be more realistic
3. SCRAP the rules altogether

I don't care HOW you feel about ME, I defy you to say that none of the above options are a needed solution.

I feel bad taking the low road here. But seriously, none of the solutions above are needed. Why? Because this is a moderately active message board at best for an emulated game. What happens here matters not the tiniest bit in the end. The board is probably seeing twice its usual postings because the server is down but once it's back up, the average joe user will go back to playing the game and the same people who sit here calling each other fags all day will go back to calling each other fags all day.

This is hardly a life or death situation, no small children or kittens are being threatened, and in the end no one here is gonna go to leave the forums and cry themselves to sleep tonight over anything said here. I just don't think that many people care.

That all said, rules are rules and should the GMs/Devs/Mods choose to enforce them I wouldn't see any issue with it. I just don't think that the situation is so dire that DEMANDING action from those in charge is really necessary. People are here for the server, not the message boards.

[ulrich]

I very rarely post on the forums, because of the attacks I received months ago.
It's worse than the Wow forums with all the vulgarity!!!
What if you wanted your 11year old daughter to play p1999. Than someone directs her to the forums? You come home from work and she says what does "explicit words" mean daddy? Someone called me this.
"You will say don't let your kids go on the internet" that's just an excuse.
These forums could be a great knowledge base for new and old players. Plus people could have normal conversations without being called names by the endless trolls.


I think they should do away with the rants and flames section. <This would help a lot.

People can go to other websites like foh forums if they want to attack people for what they did in-game or whatever.

[jilena]

Not to state the obvious but I have never seen a single thing posted on this forum that you couldn't find 10X as bad on google in 30 seconds. If you let your kids use the internet unsupervised you are essentially introducing them to ANYTHING horrible you could think of and at least 10 million more things you never thought of. That's how the internet works. It's not for kids and neither are most online games. *shrug*

[Bones]

Originally Posted by Bhutt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad to see we have Hasbinbad here to "police" things.

There are times in life that people just need to suck things up. Listen kid, I'm sorry you've had a bad home life, people have picked on you, etc. Grow a sack. Go join the military or something.

Last I checked, it's America. If you're acting like a jackass I have every right to call you out on it.

You're acting no different in your postings then the people calling you names. In my opinion, you're worse.

Everything in bold you should have just left out. It completely invalidated your argument.
That kinda shit is exactly what he is talking about in this thread.
Personal attacks accomplish nothing except prove to everybody that reads this that you have issues yourself and need to make yourself feel better IRL.
Unless that was what you were trying to accomplish, then by all means please keep it up.

Originally Posted by Bhutt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last I checked, it's America. If you're acting like a jackass I have every right to call you out on it.

Ironic.