Ragefire Agreement/Rotation

[maverixdamighty]

mess with the rotation and you will get bullied... got it!

[Skope]

If classic variance were enabled or serverpops you'd see a very different scenario, Shinra. There's a reason why this server has a massive turnover rate and the top guilds are leading in that respect, and it's not because you guys are awesome to poopsock with. I'd say it's probably because you have to sit for days when it was only required for hours on live. Personally speaking, I'd wager div would get a couple targets a week if that were the case, unfortunately Rogean's a fucking dumbass and only listens to people like you or whoever is in irc/mumble at the time

[maverixdamighty]

Agreed if you want to sock more power to you, but making an agreement between 3 guilds and expecting everyone else to just go along with it with no incentive is a bit far fetched.

[quido]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed if you want to sock more power to you, but making an agreement between 3 guilds and expecting everyone else to just go along with it with no incentive is a bit far fetched.

I wouldn't expect anyone to go along with it. I'd be similarly perturbed by it if I were you. It is your prerogative to roll into SolB and turn it into a spam-click fest again, but you have the accept the consequences of doing so =)

[EverquestJunkie]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed if you want to sock more power to you, but making an agreement between 3 guilds and expecting everyone else to just go along with it with no incentive is a bit far fetched.

[ShinraTensei]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't expect anyone to go along with it. I'd be similarly perturbed by it if I were you. It is your prerogative to roll into SolB and turn it into a spam-click fest again, but you have the accept the consequences of doing so =)

Which is funny because that is exactly what they are complaining about.

What I see here is a group of people investing time into a camp... and working out a decision/agreement that is mutually beneficial.

Then, a passerby who has NOT invested that same time for the camp, arguing that they are not part of the decision/agreement. What's wrong with this picture? The self entitlement here is just disgusting. What, you have social/work/blah blah blah? So YOUR time is worth more than OTHER'S time? Get off the horse already.

[Acillatem]

I look at it as more of finding a "compromise" to the solution. Right now the only 3 guilds demonstrating the *ability* to kill Naggy (the trigger mob) are IB/TMO/VD.

While I am in VD, I also realize we are not included in the original 5, and I am OK with that. We are, to a lesser degree, the medium between IB/TMO and Taken/Div/BDA etc.

So while I sympathize with other guilds - I also ask - what sense of entitlement do you feel should be granted if you aren't willing to make SOME sort of effort? Being in the middle - I don't EXPECT us to be in the top 5, but since we do kill Naggy somewhat regularly - I would expect us to be in the rotation as it is.

On a personal note, I have a lot of friends in both TMO and IB. I think we can all agree to disagree at times, and other times there comes a point where you need to suck it up and agree to agree.

This is one of those times. Hundreds of hours being wasted over a click. The need arose to agree to agree. Perhaps the need will arise elsewhere.

[maverixdamighty]

ability to kill naggy? i don't buy that. Right now there are 3 guilds who kill nagafen right away when he spawns. I agree with that and it's part of why those guilds are getting epics right now. If another guild wants to be included they would be expected to contribute to ensuring nagafen is dead within hours of him spawning.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ability to kill naggy? i don't buy that. Right now there are 3 guilds who kill nagafen right away when he spawns. I agree with that and it's part of why those guilds are getting epics right now. If another guild wants to be included they would be expected to contribute to ensuring nagafen is dead within hours of him spawning.

hours? try seconds-minutes. No cleric wants naggy up for "hours".

[maverixdamighty]

yes next time he's up i'll start my stop watch and see if you mobilize kill him within seconds/minutes. i've seen the precision of those raids and it leaves alot to be desired...