My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys act like we never have random people tag along with our raids so they can experience a boss for whatever reason.

True..but only if you are recruiting them and they rarely if EVER will have a shot at any of the raid loot.

[Gwence]

You can open your own server if you want to. I dont understand why you're demanding Rogean does it. The Emu code is available to everyone, knock yourself out.

[Icecometus]

At this point only 4 guilds are up in the planes with any frequency: Div, DA, IB and Remedy. Not sure what these other guilds are you speak of, Trans is all but finished (sorry Supreme). IMO these guilds have a right to a rotation.

I would remove the variance from the mobs. Each week the 4 guilds in the rotation would random for first pick. The mini bosses in fear and hate would be included with their God and the guild that chose that God would get 2 mini boss kills for that week. Once the target has spawned the guild that claimed them has 24 hours to kill the mob or it becomes up for grabs (see the current raid system). You would not get to choose the same target 2 weeks in a row of course.

A timestamped screenshot of the mobs corpse would be required to be posted on these forums so that the accurate time of the respawn could be determined.

Occam's Razor...

[Otto]

Ok. Raids.

I stopped being hardcore a few months ago due to student teaching taking up the majority of my day. And night. However, when I came back, I continued to not raid due to this camping ridiculousness.

I believe the words that were said in a previous topic were, 'IB is too good at mobilizing so they forced us to start camping mobs'. This made me laugh because it is so false.

What? Seriously? I can GUARANTEE there are some equally skilled if not better players who devote more time to EQ than myself and multiple IB members who are in fact not members of IB. That line is so wrong its laughable. We've lost races to targets before. It WILL happen again, so long as camping mobs stops.

A Rotation is completely unnecessary. What we need is for everyone to agree that camping is bullshit (which it appears everyone has) and go back to racing or make some new setup that is pseudo first to engage/ffa that is agreed upon by the guilds who are raiding. It's time to put on our big boy pants and stop crying to Nilbog and Rogean when things don't go our way.

The problem now lies in the fact that both DA and IB are so badly at each others throats, no one seems to be willing to stop camping first. By joining in on the big sit, IB did nothing but exacerbate the problem. Who knows, maybe things would've been worse if we didn't join in... but I for one never thought it to be necessary, and that's why I have four alts now =p

tl;dr

Show up to the next guild meeting and stop being a bunch of children.

[Nizzarr]

All of you guys are pretty fucking sad. No one barely commenting on the actual ideas of the rotation. Just fucking bickering and childish flaming attitude.

Then GMs wants us to find a solutions. I guess IB doesnt want a solution. So we're back at square one. Good fucking job, idiots.

I posted this thread, then our voice over ip server gets DDoS'ed. Let's say I have ideas who did it.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of you guys are pretty fucking sad. No one barely commenting on the actual ideas of the rotation. Just fucking bickering and childish flaming attitude.

Then GMs wants us to find a solutions. I guess IB doesnt want a solution. So we're back at square one. Good fucking job, idiots.

I posted this thread, then our voice over ip server gets DDoS'ed. Let's say I have ideas who did it.

If Dark Ascension stops camping, the camping will stop.

Your idea is not very good. No one likes it. You're taking it personally. You talk about being civil, and then you curse and call people names.

Well done.

[Modus]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of you guys are pretty fucking sad. No one barely commenting on the actual ideas of the rotation. Just fucking bickering and childish flaming attitude.

Then GMs wants us to find a solutions. I guess IB doesnt want a solution. So we're back at square one. Good fucking job, idiots.

This. From page 1 of this thread, you can see the mindless insults spit from the drawling retards of IB. I have no doubt in my mind that DA, Remedy, and Divinity could reach a fair, competitive ruleset consensus within minutes. Add Inglorious Douchebags, and all you'll get is childish nonsense resulting in a thread such as this one.

Every time Alawen and Gwence open their mouths, the true colors of IB are clearly shown. Other guilds on this server want a compromise that benefits all of us, as intelligible adults not obsessed with video game bragging rights.

Sometimes a farmer needs to cull the lame sheep from the herd...

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every time Alawen and Gwence open their mouths, the true colors of IB are clearly shown.

Your guild has forumtrolls too. See: yourself in a mirror, G13.

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I decided, perhaps because I possess a masochistic personality, to start from page one and revisit this thread.

I shall now provide a TLDR synopsis.

Nizzarr: Hai guyz I have an idea.
Alawen: you guys suck, stop camping lol.
Nizzarr: stop saying we suck
Alawen: stop camping? problem solved?
Daidraco: Tone down the douche, Alawen
Alawen: k

Fast Forward to page 12
G13: OMG RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE response
IB: lolololol escalation inc

Fast forward to page 19
G13: MOAR RAGE replies
Many by this point: G13 dude, stop being a dick.
Modus: clearly you can see only IB has dicks. Clearly.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. From page 1 of this thread, you can see the mindless insults spit from the drawling retards of IB. I have no doubt in my mind that DA, Remedy, and Divinity could reach a fair, competitive ruleset consensus within minutes. Add Inglorious Douchebags, and all you'll get is childish nonsense resulting in a thread such as this one.

Every time Alawen and Gwence open their mouths, the true colors of IB are clearly shown. Other guilds on this server want a compromise that benefits all of us, as intelligible adults not obsessed with video game bragging rights.

Sometimes a farmer needs to cull the lame sheep from the herd...

this totally ignores im in IB, and tried to stay constructive. I did notice you didnt call me by name so there is that but fact is, Its 2 of 5 IB members i can think of that posted in this and flamed anyone. A ratio pretty much on par with the rest DA atm. Lets just continue this civil like and forget all the drama. suicide kings sounds good to me. I hope something is worked out eventually.

[Jify]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. From page 1 of this thread, you can see the mindless insults spit from the drawling retards of IB. I have no doubt in my mind that DA, Remedy, and Divinity could reach a fair, competitive ruleset consensus within minutes. Add Inglorious Douchebags, and all you'll get is childish nonsense resulting in a thread such as this one.

Every time Alawen and Gwence open their mouths, the true colors of IB are clearly shown. Other guilds on this server want a compromise that benefits all of us, as intelligible adults not obsessed with video game bragging rights.

Sometimes a farmer needs to cull the lame sheep from the herd...

Modus, please.

Bickering is not some one sided battle. Attacks on guilds like this will of course draw a response. Your childish behaviour is exactly the cause that we seek to bicker against.

You can call us (IB) all drawling retards and comment on our "childishness", but you're doing nothing but proving your own childish ways.

Please don't pull the "other guilds want this" argument out. If I remember correctly, when the guilds originally ordered together to find a raiding solution, your guild "Fishbait" from which most of DA stems, refused to take part in the meeting, favouring a "all for us" attitude. You've taken part in multiple guilds, bringing what I can only describe as a malice attitude against IB from every guild you hop to.

Sure, it's easy to point fingers, blame the big guys, call everyone else dumb, and suck your thumb. But it doesn't get anything done. Follow the golden rule, grow the fuck up and people will respect you and your buddies.




Nizzarr:
I love the idea of a rotation, with variance. However, I disagree with the rolling for guilds in zone. I would still like to see it as "first guild with over 15" for the secondary guilds to come along. I also would hate to see a "limit" on the amount of mobs people are able to claim.

Obviously, my opinion would work in IBs favour (I think we still have the best mobilization time), but I believe DA has enough numbers (and possibly fast enough mobilization) to provide healthy competition. This change would also allow Divinity to take part in the raiding scene more aggressively, since the "camping" requirement would be lifted.

Thank you for putting the effort forth to fix the system, once again. Your suggestions worked well in the past, and I believe we can build on them to alleviate this silly camping requirement.