Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[cd288]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya and so is duoing ghoul lord and arch magus with ease as a 50 chanter. No class even comes remotely close to what a chanter is capable of except for necro's in undead zones. Neither of these classes should have such a massive degree of power over everyone else. You shouldn't be able to charm a pet that is stronger than a max level tank with all BiS gear that is also simultaneously better at dps than a max level DPS class with all BiS gear. How anyone can even argue that this should remain in game is fucking mind boggling. It should have been nerfed 10 years ago.

Well I have great news for you. All you need to do is invent a time machine, go back to 1999 and get the SOE devs to nerf something and then the staff will nerf it on P99 today.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

? Tons of Enchs were charm killing by Kunark bud. As part of the CSR team I had exposure to many servers and saw this on multiple servers.

I mean I was in one of the two top-tier guilds on my server, and none of our Chanters were Charm-soloing til Velious hit.

And Charm-soloing wasn't as prevalent as it is on P99 til at least Luclin if not POP. You just didn't see it being done. In the literal hundreds of hours my Warrior spent at the Fungi King during Vanilla not once did I ever see a Chanter Charming for DPS. In fact, nobody even considered Chanters a DPS Class (let alone THE BEST DPS Class)


They knew how to play their Class - mezzes stuns memblurs etc. Yet, they didn't Charm ubiquitously like on P99.

The question is: why?

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I have great news for you. All you need to do is invent a time machine, go back to 1999 and get the SOE devs to nerf something and then the staff will nerf it on P99 today.

Or it could just be nerfed as many other aspects that existed in classic were also nerfed.

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You shouldn't be able to charm a pet that is stronger than a max level tank with all BiS gear that is also simultaneously better at dps than a max level DPS class with all BiS gear. How anyone can even argue that this should remain in game is fucking mind boggling.

This complaint is extremely classic and proves the current situation is correct.

Thanks for your input.

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This complaint is extremely classic and proves the current situation is correct.

Thanks for your input.

It's irrelevant if the ability is/was classic. The ability is blatantly OP and should not exist in its current form. We have the opportunity to change a clearly broken mechanic to better improve the game. There is zero logical reason whatsoever not to nerf the ability. Even if there was absolute 100% confirmation that charm worked the way it currently does, it would still be fucking retarded not to change it. Just like low hp agro kiting was nerfed despite being 100% confirmed to be classic because it is fucking stupid and breaks the game.

[Hazek]

Besides whether or not "enchanters are OP". The real thing i'm wondering is why you care so much to get angry about it. Dig deep and be honest. Do you play a warrior? Don't want the solo spots to be taken? And i'm not saying I disagree.

Also getting mad and cursing is less persuasive and causes people to mock you, even if you're right.

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's irrelevant if the ability is/was classic.

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I hope this helps clear up your confusion.

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I hope this helps clear up your confusion.

What will help clear up my confusion is when you explain why low hp agro kiting doesn't work here when it very clearly should. Why is one clearly broken mechanic fixed here but another far more broken one isn't? How the fuck does this make any sense.

[slowpoke68]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Besides whether or not "enchanters are OP". The real thing i'm wondering is why you care so much to get angry about it. Dig deep and be honest. Do you play a warrior? Don't want the solo spots to be taken? And i'm not saying I disagree.

Also getting mad and cursing is less persuasive and causes people to mock you, even if you're right.

No, the problem is this. The content in this game was designed for 6 man groups. When you have one or two enchanters in group, the way charm now functions you have essentially a 7 or 8 man group.

Considering I don't think I have been in a group without a chanter in it, this affects my game play. It trivializes content, is not classic, is totally out of whack, and needs to be fixed.

I really don't understand why all of these chanters don't go play some modern mmo where you can be ez mode all the time. Really a weird choice. I would actually love to roll a chanter at some point if they ever fixed this issue.

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Besides whether or not "enchanters are OP". The real thing i'm wondering is why you care so much to get angry about it. Dig deep and be honest. Do you play a warrior? Don't want the solo spots to be taken? And i'm not saying I disagree.

Also getting mad and cursing is less persuasive and causes people to mock you, even if you're right.

Who's getting mad? Because I type "fucking" means I'm mad? Lol...

I play a bard, also a very strong class but at least I actually require other players to actually accomplish things in game. I have an actual balanced version of charm that I can't use to bulldoze what's suppose to be the most difficult content in the game. I just don't get why people want a game that everyone has beaten 100x over to be even easier than it was when nobody knew anything about the game. A duo should not be able to easily handle both AM/Lord camp simultaneously. High end item camps are being monopolized by a small group of people. The first naggy kill was accomplished using an imp protector which single handedly did 50% of the damage and there was like 50 people on the raid. How anyone can possibly think that shit like that belongs in the game is baffling.