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Old 09-09-2021, 05:50 PM
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At the beginning of the pandemic, when infections were highest, why was that emergency navy medical boat never even used? Why were the impromptu field hospitals barely used and eventually closed? Again I'm not saying this isn't an issue *anywhere*, it's just simply not a widespread issue; most hospitals are managing just fine. Also, most hospitals usually do operate at close to full capacity because it makes no financial sense to have hundreds of extra beds and equipment that are never used but have to be maintained and paid for.

So, sure, in some places they are overburdened due to covid, and that's unfortunate obviously I don't want people dying in the hallways, but it is not the apocalyptic issue people are making it out to be.
1. Most hospitals ICUs absolutely do not operate at close to full capacity at all. It's a very bad thing if you're consistently operating at close to full ICU capacity.

2. The navy boat was used. It was used to treat non-COVID patients because, as I'm sure even someone of your low intelligence level can understand, a dense environment like a ship is a terrible place to treat patients with a highly contagious disease. So where they could they transferred certain types of patients there from the hospital, or sent them there in the first place. But the ship wasn't equipped to treat every possible kind of medical emergency.

It's always surprising to me how people like you can form such deep opinions about things without actually knowing anything about it.
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:02 PM
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I love how these fuckwits clam up when they realize hospital ICUs are at 80-90% under normal conditions.
It was good info but you made it shitty by sandwiching it with your own thoughts as you did.
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:22 PM
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I cant wait to debate about how we should archive the abortion debate up until the last 10 seconds before impact.
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:23 PM
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As I pointed out and so did Toxigen, it is perfectly normal for a hospital to have most of it's ICU beds filled. It is financially insane to have 2000% more beds than you need. It's like buying 10,000 acres for a farm, and having a 50x50 foot field of corn. So yes, covid presented some new unique challenges, which were quickly adapted to.

I've never said "don't get the vaccine, it doesn't do anything!!". I just don't think it should be forced upon anyone. If you're in an at-risk demographic (elderly, obese, or both) you should probably get it. If you're young and healthy, there's no reason to assume unknown risks. I know I'm a broken record at this point, but it bares repeating: *we have no long term data whatsoever on possible side effects of the vaccine*. So if you're young and healthy, and therefor stand almost zero chance of getting covid let alone dying from it, it's perfectly reasonable to not get vaccinated, for the sole purpose of avoiding potential long term side effects that we have not yet seen. Because it's not even a year old.

Get it? It's super simple.
Well, if you want to work around other human beings, you'll have to get it. Its your choice. Nobody is holding you down. If you choose to go against your company policy thats your choice. You dont have the right to work somewhere if you want to needlessly endanger people

Get it? Super simple.
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:35 PM
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Well, if you want to work around other human beings, you'll have to get it. Its your choice. Nobody is holding you down. If you choose to go against your company policy thats your choice. You dont have the right to work somewhere if you want to needlessly endanger people

Get it? Super simple.
Vaccinated can still contract and spread covid.

now go get your booster shots are big pharma can get another 20 bucks per from the gov.
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:37 PM
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Hey Gravyidiot



Enjoy your jabs. GL with your immune system on a subscription service now.
Thats the best you can do? Retardican's are not known for being clever. Just armed thieves, liars, and all round pieces of holy shit.

Its really easy to move the goal post. You said 80 to 90% is normal. I showed you higher than 80% and 90%.

Is it now 100% capacity for weeks is normal? You just saw the story about the doctors turning people away. They are tired of you fucking idiots.

I dont want you to get sick only because you would infect others that were innocent/not as fucking stupid as you. If you got sick and could die on your own, I would approve of that. Cowards never do though, they always drag people down with them. Just like all those strong faith christians who are so sure god will heal em. They all end up going to the hospital, running up a huge bill for the family, forsaking their faith in their silly god, and then dying.

Then, the people who did take the vaccine and have an actual emergency that was not caused by being a retarded person, they cant get a bed. I know you dont actually care about anyone but yourself, but its still a fair point.


15 teaches died in ONE COUNTY this month from covid. I guess thats "normal" too.. Let me guess "they knew the risks" or "they should have listened to the cop" ???
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:41 PM
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1. Most hospitals ICUs absolutely do not operate at close to full capacity at all. It's a very bad thing if you're consistently operating at close to full ICU capacity.

2. The navy boat was used. It was used to treat non-COVID patients because, as I'm sure even someone of your low intelligence level can understand, a dense environment like a ship is a terrible place to treat patients with a highly contagious disease. So where they could they transferred certain types of patients there from the hospital, or sent them there in the first place. But the ship wasn't equipped to treat every possible kind of medical emergency.

It's always surprising to me how people like you can form such deep opinions about things without actually knowing anything about it.
Toxigen is a doctor or something. He must work at a hospital ICU because he is REALLY informed. He is sucking that "this is not happening!!!!" dick REALLY hard. Dude really believes that a hospital operating at 90% or better capacity is "good" or "normal". Yea.. Less care for everyone, more hours for the staff, using up all your resources that are supposed to last for a month in a week. That sounds REALLY good for the hospitals lol.

You know how these republicans are. They believe that work sets you free, remember when they did that? lol
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:16 PM
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Toxigen is a doctor or something. He must work at a hospital ICU because he is REALLY informed. He is sucking that "this is not happening!!!!" dick REALLY hard. Dude really believes that a hospital operating at 90% or better capacity is "good" or "normal". Yea.. Less care for everyone, more hours for the staff, using up all your resources that are supposed to last for a month in a week. That sounds REALLY good for the hospitals lol.

You know how these republicans are. They believe that work sets you free, remember when they did that? lol
yeah hospitals are a business like any other. they cut costs at every opportunity. if business is slow, they'll close a whole floor, reducing their, "capacity".

hospitals reporting 80%, 90% capacity are nothing new, this is a sweet spot for profit over hospital operation costs; its a business like any other.

The actual metric that should be applied to covid patients populating hospitals is only this:

How many dying Americans are turned away, asked to leave, and refused medical care without being referred to another medical care facility?

It's zero, your fear mongering attempt has failed.
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:19 PM
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I'm tired of living under a medical dictatorship.
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:32 PM
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yeah shits gettin pretty real out there
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