Michael Brown

[Lictor]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha yea cus the grand jury is surprised of super human individuals incapable of doing their jobs poorly.

What I don't understand is the hypocrisy of the Conservative (or the right or whatever you want to call them) party.

Yes to guns! because the government cant do its job because 1984! Vs. No to police being held accountable! because for some reason this portion of the government is infallible 1984 is just a book!

Rabble rabble rabble!! It has been explained to me why these results occur bc of how our legal system is set up, but it is actually race and the damn conservatives!!

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The evidence presented in both the Brown and Garner cases easily rise the the level of probable cause. The exculpatory evidence and affirmative defenses are for a trial jury to decide.

Hmm, thats actually fairly interesting. I suppose the logic is that the grand jury is somehow faster and less thorough than a full trial? (IANAL)

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Lictor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rabble rabble rabble!! It has been explained to me why these results occur bc of how our legal system is set up, but it is actually race and the damn conservatives!!

Im not talking about why or where the results come from. I'm talking about how the conservatives are fucking stupid hypocrite liars.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, thats actually fairly interesting. I suppose the logic is that the grand jury is somehow faster and less thorough than a full trial? (IANAL)

The Grand Jury is not an adversarial process and it's even then the prosecutor has a vested interest in not prosecuting people he works with on a daily basis.

There really needs to be a special Prosector appointed for this kind of situation.

[Lictor]

And whatever side your political views fall on is not hypocritical? Please

[AnOldEnemy]

It is a good thing this case did not go to trial because if it had the cop would most certainly have been let off which would have wasted even more taxpayer dollars in debt ridden NYC and the public outrage would have been even worse. As much as people don't like it this is the system in NYC.

This may sound like I am being a square by the crime culture many find acceptable and even admirable which many youth try to emulate is a problem. I was at recent Nets basketball game in Brooklyn and they had Bobby Shmurda's song "Hot *****" playing over the PA. Look at the lyrics to that song and you can see how crime culture is celebrated and welcomed, especially since apparently that song is very popular. You would never have heard that song played a sports venue a generation or two back. Just look at how many communities where the norm is "don't snitch" and this is one of the most frustrating mentalities there are. Most of the murders are committed in minority neighborhoods and even though someone knows something that could help bring a rapist or murderer to justice they won't come forward because of this silly "code," yet there is no outrage over that. Oh, the media....the real problem.

Also, almost every media outlet sensationalizes everything because they all have agendas. Anytime something happens in this country mob outrage gets fueled by this and tries to get knee-jerk reactions to everything. How about being proactive about something if you want changes and not wait until something happens?

Kony 2012 never forget......

[Duckwalk]

The grand jury historically exists to determine if the evidence of an alleged crime rises above a minimum level not to determine the entire entire merits of a cases.

It's like a teaching assistant sorting through a stack of term papers and immediately excluding those that didn't meet the minimum page requirments then the teacher reading those that did and grading them.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by AnOldEnemy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is a good thing this case did not go to trial because if it had the cop would most certainly have been let off which would have wasted even more taxpayer dollars in debt ridden NYC and the public outrage would have been even worse. As much as people don't like it this is the system in NYC.

This may sound like I am being a square by the crime culture many find acceptable and even admirable which many youth try to emulate is a problem. I was at recent Nets basketball game in Brooklyn and they had Bobby Shmurda's song "Hot *****" playing over the PA. Look at the lyrics to that song and you can see how crime culture is celebrated and welcomed, especially since apparently that song is very popular. You would never have heard that song played a sports venue a generation or two back. Just look at how many communities where the norm is "don't snitch" and this is one of the most frustrating mentalities there are. Most of the murders are committed in minority neighborhoods and even though someone knows something that could help bring a rapist or murderer to justice they won't come forward because of this silly "code," yet there is no outrage over that. Oh, the media....the real problem.

Also, almost every media outlet sensationalizes everything because they all have agendas. Anytime something happens in this country mob outrage gets fueled by this and tries to get knee-jerk reactions to everything. How about being proactive about something if you want changes and not wait until something happens?

Kony 2012 never forget......

you are wrong

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[jettle]

[QUOTE=AnOldEnemy;1703694]
This may sound like I am being a square by the crime culture many find acceptable and even admirable which many youth try to emulate is a problem. I was at recent Nets basketball game in Brooklyn and they had Bobby Shmurda's song "Hot *****" playing over the PA. Look at the lyrics to that song and you can see how crime culture is celebrated and welcomed, especially since apparently that song is very popular. You would never have heard that song played a sports venue a generation or two back. Just look at how many communities where the norm is "don't snitch" and this is one of the most frustrating mentalities there are. Most of the murders are committed in minority neighborhoods and even though someone knows something that could help bring a rapist or murderer to justice they won't come forward because of this silly "code," yet there is no outrage over that. Oh, the media....the real problem.QUOTE]

its dees racist cracka ass cops bruh!!

"liberals" - complain about everything

"conservatives" - tell people to get over it

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by AnOldEnemy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is a good thing this case did not go to trial because if it had the cop would most certainly have been let off which would have wasted even more taxpayer dollars in debt ridden NYC and the public outrage would have been even worse. As much as people don't like it this is the system in NYC.

This may sound like I am being a square by the crime culture many find acceptable and even admirable which many youth try to emulate is a problem. I was at recent Nets basketball game in Brooklyn and they had Bobby Shmurda's song "Hot *****" playing over the PA. Look at the lyrics to that song and you can see how crime culture is celebrated and welcomed, especially since apparently that song is very popular. You would never have heard that song played a sports venue a generation or two back. Just look at how many communities where the norm is "don't snitch" and this is one of the most frustrating mentalities there are. Most of the murders are committed in minority neighborhoods and even though someone knows something that could help bring a rapist or murderer to justice they won't come forward because of this silly "code," yet there is no outrage over that. Oh, the media....the real problem.

Also, almost every media outlet sensationalizes everything because they all have agendas. Anytime something happens in this country mob outrage gets fueled by this and tries to get knee-jerk reactions to everything. How about being proactive about something if you want changes and not wait until something happens?

Kony 2012 never forget......

I disagree. I think a criminal trial would have at least shown that police officers and their actions are held to the same standard as the rest of us. The fact they weren't indicted (and almost never are) when private citizens are indicted in similar circumstances the vast vast majority of the time is in my opinion one the major factors driving current unrest

The other major factor being that minorities are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement.