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[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, anyone with half a brain (not you, clearly) will easily pick up on the fact that every admission I made in that post, I had already made in earlier ones. I just simply laid it out with much more lucidity so as to cater to the comprehensive abilities of readers such as yourself, which are at approximately a grade-school level.

So you are saying that you have been a fucking idiot the entire time? Congratulations.

[paulgiamatti]

And really, Eliseus, your vitriol is a pretty clear indication that you're grasping some of the things I'm saying and perhaps wrestling internally with the realization that maybe you've been misled for quite some time now. If that is indeed the case, then I actually do apologize for being nasty towards you.

Everyone can be misled. I've been misled plenty. It sucks. I don't think anyone here is a bad person, and I have a bad habit of trying to make examples out of people, so if you've been victimized by me in that way then I'm sorry.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And really, Eliseus, your vitriol is a pretty clear indication that you're grasping some of the things I'm saying and perhaps wrestling internally with the realization that maybe you've been misled for quite some time now. If that is indeed the case, then I actually do apologize for being nasty towards you.

Everyone can be misled. I've been misled plenty. It sucks. I don't think anyone here is a bad person, and I have a bad habit of trying to make examples out of people, so if you've been victimized by me in that way then I'm sorry.

No. You CLEARLY argued point of views that you ADMIT you have no idea what you are talking about. You didn't "accidentally" do any misleading of the sorts. You argue valid points, sure valid points that were struck down, but valid points none-the-less. If you don't know shit and are "seeking" some answers. Don't argue like everyone else in here is some kind of moron and only your opinions are valid. HENCE the sit back and shut the fuck up. You didn't present anything in some type of question format like "here is what X says, what do you guys think, or what counter arguments do you have." and listened. You argued "here is what X says, show me your counter arguments, they are irrelevant, they don't matter, I'm right, you are wrong." and try to "disqualify" people from the conversation that disagreed with you. I've been here arguing since the beginning of thread. To argue that that isn't what happened is completely fabricated like your intelligence.

To also make it clear. I think you are a bad person. I think you are a horrible person. Not only are you very clearly 1-sided. You have already admitted to basically opening your doors to religious people just for the sake of ridiculing them. Who fucking cares if what they do or don't believe is true. You treat other humans in general like shit, and it's quite obvious from your posts. You try to act like a reasonable person after going through pages upon pages of shit posting, just to end up doing......... more shit posting. Then you act like you never did anything wrong. Your opinion is the only one that matters. This isn't a science vs religion debate. This is you fucking showing that anyone that disagrees with you in general is wrong. You have implied it very strong. I would like to say I don't know this or I'm wrong, but I think 150 pages of you is actually quite evident of the matter.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. You CLEARLY argued point of views that you ADMIT you have no idea what you are talking about. You didn't "accidentally" do any misleading of the sorts. You argue valid points, sure valid points that were struck down, but valid points none-the-less. If you don't know shit and are "seeking" some answers. Don't argue like everyone else in here is some kind of moron and only your opinions are valid. HENCE the sit back and shut the fuck up. You didn't present anything in some type of question format like "here is what X says, what do you guys think, or what counter arguments do you have." and listened. You argued "here is what X says, show me your counter arguments, they are irrelevant, they don't matter, I'm right, you are wrong." and try to "disqualify" people from the conversation that disagreed with you. I've been here arguing since the beginning of thread. To argue that that isn't what happened is completely fabricated like your intelligence.

To also make it clear. I think you are a bad person. I think you are a horrible person. Not only are you very clearly 1-sided. You have already admitted to basically opening your doors to religious people just for the sake of ridiculing them. Who fucking cares if what they do or don't believe is true. You treat other humans in general like shit, and it's quite obvious from your posts. You try to act like a reasonable person after going through pages upon pages of shit posting, just to end up doing......... more shit posting. Then you act like you never did anything wrong. Your opinion is the only one that matters. This isn't a science vs religion debate. This is you fucking showing that anyone that disagrees with you in general is wrong. You have implied it very strong. I would like to say I don't know this or I'm wrong, but I think 150 pages of you is actually quite evident of the matter.

This guy is mad about something.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You CLEARLY argued point of views that you ADMIT you have no idea what you are talking about.

Still falling into simplistic conflation, just like from the very beginning. Demonstrating intellectual honesty, which is what I just did, doesn't invalidate any of my arguments. Again (I've never had to say "again" so many times), every admission I made in the last few posts I had already made earlier in the thread. Science doesn't jump to conclusions; creationism, and every immoral subset underneath it, simply does. This creates inherent, intrinsic immorality and I will not apologize for pointing this out, and I will reiterate it as many times as is necessary.

And just so you know, I wasn't saying I misled you. I wasn't trying to lead you anywhere, but rather show you how to think in a morally acceptable way. I am saying that you've been misled, probably by most of the people you think are your friends. No one develops a psychology like yours alone. I've seen it too many times to not know better.

Now, if you want to rebut with some actual points about how I've contradicted myself, then go right ahead. I can assure you I haven't, because I've been intellectually honest with you all from the start.

And I'm done now. I have actual real things to attend to - you know, like contributing to a secular society that has come about because of science.

[radditsu]

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[capco]

I'll take that as a no.

[Whirled]

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[Glenzig]

"The fossil record contains no trace of these preliminary stages in the development of many-celled organisms."--Robert Jastrow, Red Giants and White Dwarfs, p. 249.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The fossil record contains no trace of these preliminary stages in the development of many-celled organisms."--Robert Jastrow, Red Giants and White Dwarfs, p. 249.

May I present to you...fossilized bacteria:
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/bacteria/bacteriafr.html

Just one of the many examples of fossils we have that are single celled organisms...not multi-celled. Try again.