End of the rotation?

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The system doesn't force guilds to move into another tier, so how is it being gamed?

If you think of Class R as a training ground for Class C, then BDA's demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics make perfect sense . . . but BDA's complete unwillingness to go C does not.

If you think of Class R as a haven for barely competent guilds, then BDA's desire to stay in the kiddie pool makes perfect sense . . . but not their demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, I'm not sure what to tell you. And please don't bitch about your lack of keys when you never attempt FFA Trakanon.

[ctre]

1: To fix all pixel issue coders just implement a guild raid management routine. Problem solved, no more c and r class. But they do not have access to smart enough coders.

Sooo. We are stuck with what we have now, the rotation.

2: The rotation ::
It all boils down to a perception. The idea that a large guild can say the rotation is broken is not smart.
All small and some large guilds will form what I like to call the guild alliance. Perpetually hanging the guild that left the rotation out to dry, (Sorry Chest).

Give them time and they will come crawling back due to lack of pixels. Or will the likes of TMO give them sympathy if they try the class c path, I can only speculate.

[Red_Psyphon]

tldr

[Dizey]

So what you're saying is, all of these small guilds that were in the rotation will alliance up and kill the bosses?

Which would make those gateway bosses trivial?

Which was what was being ask of them in the first place instead of bloating and exploiting the R rotation?

hmmm.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think of Class R as a training ground for Class C, then BDA's demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics make perfect sense . . . but BDA's complete unwillingness to go C does not.

If you think of Class R as a haven for barely competent guilds, then BDA's desire to stay in the kiddie pool makes perfect sense . . . but not their demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, I'm not sure what to tell you. And please don't bitch about your lack of keys when you never attempt FFA Trakanon.

I don't view the Class system as a measure of how competent you are as a guild, or as a training ground for progression. Simply a segregation of play styles.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think of Class R as a training ground for Class C, then BDA's demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics make perfect sense . . . but BDA's complete unwillingness to go C does not.

If you think of Class R as a haven for barely competent guilds, then BDA's desire to stay in the kiddie pool makes perfect sense . . . but not their demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, I'm not sure what to tell you. And please don't bitch about your lack of keys when you never attempt FFA Trakanon.

SO MUCH THIS!!!!

[rictus204]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think of Class R as a training ground for Class C, then BDA's demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics make perfect sense . . . but BDA's complete unwillingness to go C does not.

If you think of Class R as a haven for barely competent guilds, then BDA's desire to stay in the kiddie pool makes perfect sense . . . but not their demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, I'm not sure what to tell you. And please don't bitch about your lack of keys when you never attempt FFA Trakanon.

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[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think of Class R as a training ground for Class C, then BDA's demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics make perfect sense . . . but BDA's complete unwillingness to go C does not.

If you think of Class R as a haven for barely competent guilds, then BDA's desire to stay in the kiddie pool makes perfect sense . . . but not their demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, I'm not sure what to tell you. And please don't bitch about your lack of keys when you never attempt FFA Trakanon.

Getting that warm and fuzzy feeling.

Good work A-Team maybe you do deserve to get epics after all.

[Nivar Quartz]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think of Class R as a training ground for Class C, then BDA's demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics make perfect sense . . . but BDA's complete unwillingness to go C does not.

If you think of Class R as a haven for barely competent guilds, then BDA's desire to stay in the kiddie pool makes perfect sense . . . but not their demands that everyone kill Gorenaire at 3AM in 1 hour to get epics.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, I'm not sure what to tell you. And please don't bitch about your lack of keys when you never attempt FFA Trakanon.

I think Loraine/Lorean/Raev/Kaev/Argh/Jeremy or whatever his fake/real roommate cleric friend two boxed whatever from divinity to vd to a-team is, if that clears things up a bit.... either way whatever Shiroe says is wrong on principle.

Point is, BDA is now considered the man and should move to class " C " and re start the train wars in VP I assume.

BDA Officially reascends class all together, kill or be killed

Hate - Fear - Sky - VP should be turned red until Velious, let a new kinda drama into ur no GM support zones this game is funner that way.

Long Live Shinko the hero of Norrath

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Nivar Quartz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Loraine/Lorean/Raev/Kaev/Argh/Jeremy or whatever his fake/real roommate cleric friend two boxed whatever from divinity to vd to a-team is, if that clears things up a bit.... either way whatever Shiroe says is wrong on principle.

Point is, BDA is now considered the man and should move to class " C " and re start the train wars in VP I assume.

BDA Officially reascends class all together, kill or be killed

Hate - Fear - Sky - VP should be turned red until Velious, let a new kinda drama into ur no GM support zones this game is funner that way.

Long Live Shinko the hero of Norrath

VP hasn't been non-CSR for like a year now. WTF are you talkin bout ?