Project 1999 PvP Open Broadcast Discussion *Rescheduled*

[Drone]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See my post above. If you want to grow the server you are focused on the wrong area of the server. At most the high end raiding scene holds 50 active people right now. Add variance and it will hold 80 active people. That small gain is not what this server needs. The server needs to gain 200-300 more people and the only way to do that is to bring in fresh blood and focus on benefits of non raiding areas. Not try and bring in those tired already burned out people from before who will never stay long term anyway.

growing the server is great for everyone and i agree and like some of those ideas you thought of

though i believe variance is an important addition for the red server (it becomes less important with a blue-like population-- though not necessarily detrimental because at least a slower force can contest over here, not just sit around and hope for the tmo to wipe) to encourage competition if we end up leaking folks again (for whatever reason) after making pop gains

[Stasis01]

Holocaust, FF, Force, Azrael, Doming, Heresy, probably missing lots etc etc etc.

There is a population around, plus all the randoms we've lost - they just can't compete with the current ruleset. Nihilum has the thickest beard lets just put it that way, and they have the exact time and place every time to flex their numbers/willingness to stay on top of an advantage gained by time investment/skill.

There are crews around, but this rule set makes you go heads up - which is counter productive to small crews that might be able to assemble/do shit faster. Or just be lucky and have their entire force around doing other shit and a mob spawns at a weird time and are already mobilized and buffed - which was how it seemed on live more often than not.

Either way this is all theory quest and I just look at the history of red99 as well as the current state of red99 and want to puke being this one of the last chances of a decent nostalgic live like pvp box - Rallos Zek policed itself, today gamers aren't so new and pathetic. This is the grief troll age of online gaming bros, the harder you grief the better rep and this ruleset hands it to ya. Shit exp loss alone I can't think of how many hours me and Tyrionn took away from poor party.

[Stasis01]

Nihilum lawyers on the case Elderan and HB who love the 84 pop friday night mostly lowbies/mid randoms because of sunday night DKP farming, and that velious loot.

[heartbrand]

zzzzzz still have yet to respond to my points

[Drone]

lol kk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSzDW3_lR84

[Stasis01]

1:30 AM Saturday 1 Nihilum online - Dangle. Your points are lies my friend.

If Heresy was doing hate right now and inny popped we'd snag 'em.

You're arguing people would play more/recruit more, but I just feel like you're just arguing the topic with the obvious choices/fear mongering because you want easymode low pop box that serves one guild.

[Drone]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is on such a small box Nihilum would expand to such a large percentage of the server there would be almost no pvp.

Would expand? Why not expand now? I just have a hard time believing the answer has anything to do with some altruistic urge to encourage competition. To give up an advantage wouldn't be real competition anyways, so I agree with why you'd argue against variance.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not really off topic at all. Everyone here is brain storming ways to kill nihilum

This is why Heartbrands opinion can't be taken serious, he views all changes to the box on a meter of how much will it help Nihilum - and if it doesn't he'll spew useless counter arguments. It's no secret how he and Elderan think.

I have been the underdog, and I have had the free pixels - from a neutral point of view this box needs big change, or it will continue to be the 100 pop grief troll fest, and the 1 guild PVE progression.

[heartbrand]

Useless counter arguments? You still have yet to respond to any of my points in my post as to how variance will help the opposition and not result in what I said. You think I give a fuck what happens here? I have literally every BiS in the game. I'm immersed in WoW currently and 5.4 launches in 2 weeks. It makes no difference to me, just don't spew bullshit that variance will help when it will cripple the oppositions ability to contest. Just because you're too short sighted or bitter to see it doesn't make it any less true.

[mtb tripper]

wheres the new guild