What did player moan about during EQ's live peak?

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never heard Monks complain. Then again I only played release until end of Velious. Monks were one of the best classes by far in classic/kunark/velious.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/javapup...n/photostream/

founds some SS and old posts about it. if you google everquest monk protest should come up.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/javapup...n/photostream/

founds some SS and old posts about it. if you google everquest monk protest should come up.

Sept 18 2009? Is that about the time frame?

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be surprised if any of them were doable at 60 or it would have been posted that someone did it before me on SK.org! The difference in damage intake ( both melee and spells) from Luclin to PoP is gigantic. Furthermore, SKs definitely don't have the sustainability at 60. Touch of Volatis (your standard -200 MR check lifetap) resisted frequently at 60, only Touch of Innoruuk (-500MR mod) reliably landed. Paladins didn't really get good solo heals til their Nife set.

Trakanon at 65 required SK PoP HT to prevent him from gating. You had to clear nearby adepts/priests from the banish point then pull him. Fighting him at the spawn point didn't work. I don't remember non-SKs doing him until 70.

i think understimate the massive ac upgrade and aswell atk and the aa income and easy rege dragon in kunark let me explain.

paladins aa heals improved the class realy alot with focus items my lame hot was healing me for 500 a tick, stupid golden rod or emp sword helped me to heal aswell full aa sk +vt gear +rune weapon from seru + new spear line : more dmg

in the case of trakanon it was harder to clean all jugs prot than himself. it wasnt about how long u could hold but rather how fast u could Burn him down . wich was prety doable with spears being able to hit for 1500 prety often .

paladins cure aa was key for mobs like Gore (and stupid anty fear aa lol), and original slay undead+ holyforge made short work of mobs like venril.

of course most people went to these figths max raid buffed no just Self buffed. the key point was being MAX AAS.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think understimate the massive ac upgrade and aswell atk and the aa income and easy rege dragon in kunark let me explain.

paladins aa heals improved the class realy alot with focus items my lame hot was healing me for 500 a tick, stupid golden rod or emp sword helped me to heal aswell full aa sk +vt gear +rune weapon from seru + new spear line : more dmg

in the case of trakanon it was harder to clean all jugs prot than himself. it wasnt about how long u could hold but rather how fast u could Burn him down . wich was prety doable with spears being able to hit for 1500 prety often .

paladins cure aa was key for mobs like Gore (and stupid anty fear aa lol), and original slay undead+ holyforge made short work of mobs like venril.

of course most people went to these figths max raid buffed no just Self buffed. the key point was being MAX AAS.

You mean people were able to solo content from 1-2 expansions previous with current expansion top end gear and maxed out alternate advancement, plus full current expansion buffs? Sounds OP'd to me.

This is like saying a full Velious raid geared person solo'd Nagafen...whoopdeedoo.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sept 18 2009? Is that about the time frame?

That is the picture stream upload date. It happened back in around 2000.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think understimate the massive ac upgrade and aswell atk and the aa income and easy rege dragon in kunark let me explain.

paladins aa heals improved the class realy alot with focus items my lame hot was healing me for 500 a tick, stupid golden rod or emp sword helped me to heal aswell full aa sk +vt gear +rune weapon from seru + new spear line : more dmg

in the case of trakanon it was harder to clean all jugs prot than himself. it wasnt about how long u could hold but rather how fast u could Burn him down . wich was prety doable with spears being able to hit for 1500 prety often .

paladins cure aa was key for mobs like Gore (and stupid anty fear aa lol), and original slay undead+ holyforge made short work of mobs like venril.

of course most people went to these figths max raid buffed no just Self buffed. the key point was being MAX AAS.

Spells didn't land well on Trakanon even at 65. Going through a log I have of Trakanon in early GoD:

[Thu Jun 17 05:49:02 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:03 2004] Your Shale Shoulderpads shimmers briefly.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:03 2004] You begin casting Touch of Volatis.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] Your target resisted the Touch of Volatis spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] You crush Trakanon for 109 points of damage.

Even -200 MR spells at 65 usually just partialed him.

In terms of disease spells (SK spears), they have no resist mod. From the same fight, here's me attempting to land 2 disease spells at 65 that had a -75DR mod.

[Thu Jun 17 05:48:01 2004] You begin casting Aura of Darkness.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] You resist the Poison Breath spell!
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] Auto attack is on.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:03 2004] Your target resisted the Aura of Darkness spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:03 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:04 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You crush Trakanon for 5 points of damage.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You begin casting Aura of Darkness.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:11 2004] Your target resisted the Aura of Darkness spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:11 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.

Basically, the only thing that reliably landed on unbuffed Trakanon (even at 65) was Touch of Innoruuk.

Even at 450 MR (Ring of Resistance, MR Flower, and Dain Hammer) - Deadly Lifetap still partialed most of the time in the 500ish range. At this level of MR and 5 levels lower, it's more than likely going to be full 1500 Lifetaps.

Clearing Juggs was pointless since you had to pull him to banish point anyways. You could not rely on summons back.

Paladin wise in Luclin, Celestial Cleansing was 175/tick. With Breathe of Tunare and Cleansing and AAs, you're looking at 200/tick. Emp Sword was a lifetap for 100 with a 10% chance to critical with AAs. Really not much healing from procs (Goldenrod heals for a bit more, but will resist). Even with superior healing's weaved between melee swings, I can't imagine Paladins sustaining their health and mana pool for 32k HP + Regen until PoP.

With that said, if you got links or logs of any of this, I wouldn't mind seeing them.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spells didn't land well on Trakanon even at 65. Going through a log I have of Trakanon in early GoD:

[Thu Jun 17 05:49:02 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:03 2004] Your Shale Shoulderpads shimmers briefly.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:03 2004] You begin casting Touch of Volatis.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] Your target resisted the Touch of Volatis spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] You crush Trakanon for 109 points of damage.

Even -200 MR spells at 65 usually just partialed him.

In terms of disease spells (SK spears), they have no resist mod. From the same fight, here's me attempting to land 2 disease spells at 65 that had a -75DR mod.

[Thu Jun 17 05:48:01 2004] You begin casting Aura of Darkness.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] You resist the Poison Breath spell!
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] Auto attack is on.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:03 2004] Your target resisted the Aura of Darkness spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:03 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:04 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You crush Trakanon for 5 points of damage.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You begin casting Aura of Darkness.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:11 2004] Your target resisted the Aura of Darkness spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:11 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.

Basically, the only thing that reliably landed on unbuffed Trakanon (even at 65) was Touch of Innoruuk.

Even at 450 MR (Ring of Resistance, MR Flower, and Dain Hammer) - Deadly Lifetap still partialed most of the time in the 500ish range. At this level of MR and 5 levels lower, it's more than likely going to be full 1500 Lifetaps.

Clearing Juggs was pointless since you had to pull him to banish point anyways. You could not rely on summons back.

Paladin wise in Luclin, Celestial Cleansing was 175/tick. With Breathe of Tunare and Cleansing and AAs, you're looking at 200/tick. Emp Sword was a lifetap for 100 with a 10% chance to critical with AAs. Really not much healing from procs (Goldenrod heals for a bit more, but will resist). Even with superior healing's weaved between melee swings, I can't imagine Paladins sustaining their health and mana pool for 32k HP + Regen until PoP.

With that said, if you got links or logs of any of this, I wouldn't mind seeing them.

i had the printed screens if i scan them will make darth elethia post it.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spells didn't land well on Trakanon even at 65. Going through a log I have of Trakanon in early GoD:

[Thu Jun 17 05:49:02 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:03 2004] Your Shale Shoulderpads shimmers briefly.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:03 2004] You begin casting Touch of Volatis.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] Your target resisted the Touch of Volatis spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.
[Thu Jun 17 05:49:05 2004] You crush Trakanon for 109 points of damage.

Even -200 MR spells at 65 usually just partialed him.

In terms of disease spells (SK spears), they have no resist mod. From the same fight, here's me attempting to land 2 disease spells at 65 that had a -75DR mod.

[Thu Jun 17 05:48:01 2004] You begin casting Aura of Darkness.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] You resist the Poison Breath spell!
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:02 2004] Auto attack is on.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:03 2004] Your target resisted the Aura of Darkness spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:03 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:04 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:07 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You crush Trakanon for 5 points of damage.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:08 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:09 2004] You begin casting Aura of Darkness.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:11 2004] Your target resisted the Aura of Darkness spell.
[Thu Jun 17 05:48:11 2004] Your Grimror's Boots of the Plagues flickers with a pale light.

Basically, the only thing that reliably landed on unbuffed Trakanon (even at 65) was Touch of Innoruuk.

Even at 450 MR (Ring of Resistance, MR Flower, and Dain Hammer) - Deadly Lifetap still partialed most of the time in the 500ish range. At this level of MR and 5 levels lower, it's more than likely going to be full 1500 Lifetaps.

Clearing Juggs was pointless since you had to pull him to banish point anyways. You could not rely on summons back.

Paladin wise in Luclin, Celestial Cleansing was 175/tick. With Breathe of Tunare and Cleansing and AAs, you're looking at 200/tick. Emp Sword was a lifetap for 100 with a 10% chance to critical with AAs. Really not much healing from procs (Goldenrod heals for a bit more, but will resist). Even with superior healing's weaved between melee swings, I can't imagine Paladins sustaining their health and mana pool for 32k HP + Regen until PoP.

With that said, if you got links or logs of any of this, I wouldn't mind seeing them.

u forgot hot heals could critic so 200 tic as u call turned 400, i used seru sword for runes mostly.
Aswell im going to be honest and dont lie you. first week i abused the hell of pre nerfed thunder of karana spell . and divine stun

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

u forgot hot heals could critic so 200 tic as u call turned 400, i used seru sword for runes mostly.
Aswell im going to be honest and dont lie you. first week i abused the hell of pre nerfed thunder of karana spell . and divine stun

Heal Over Time critical AA (Healing Boon) was not in game until Omens of War.

Edit: Not trying to nitpick, I just can't see Trakanon/Talendor/Gorenaire being solod by a Knight in SoL without exceptional circumstances.