First to Engage: Exploiting the mechanic?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Origin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either way, TMO has the current rules completely dominated. Stop the monopoly and promote competition.

It's a level playing field. Both Sirken and I have said this. Everyone's got the same chance to compete. As brut stated above, you're trading one kind of sock for another, possibly more soiled sock.

There's been some good idea's from the raid community on how to improve the raid scene, I just don't think this is one of them.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't talking about OP, just saying that it's kinda silly to claim that one type of poopsock is somehow more skillful than the other.

If have to talk about Origins thing, honestly don't think it matters either way. The raidscene is/has always been full of frothing idiocy and ultimately any changes the staff tries to improve it with will be quickly distorted into something even more retarded.

1 is poopsocking 1 isnt. You must be talking to Chest too much.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a level playing field. Both Sirken and I have said this. Everyone's got the same chance to compete. As brut stated above, you're trading one kind of sock for another, possibly more soiled sock.

There's been some good idea's from the raid community on how to improve the raid scene, I just don't think this is one of them.

Velious is the solution. All of this is basic economics need more targets to spread out demand.

[Origin]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So.. I'm not really sure how origins suggestion in this thread would change that, if that's what you believe to be true?

It would change it in the sense that one semi-lucky, non-AFK person wouldn't determine the outcome of the entire battle. One person wouldn't be able to stall for nearly 60 seconds while another guild is ready to actually engage and kill the mob in question.

[Origin]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a level playing field. Both Sirken and I have said this. Everyone's got the same chance to compete. As brut stated above, you're trading one kind of sock for another, possibly more soiled sock.

There's been some good idea's from the raid community on how to improve the raid scene, I just don't think this is one of them.

I appreciate this and thank you for listening to the community.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Origin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would change it in the sense that one semi-lucky, non-AFK person wouldn't determine the outcome of the entire battle. One person wouldn't be able to stall for nearly 60 seconds while another guild is ready to actually engage and kill the mob in question.

Pulling is stalling... You are suggesting camping out on every spawn point. Poopsocking isn't the solution.

[cs616]

You're entitled to an opinion. However, your opinion since leaving FE for TMO has been to make snarky comments and belittle the efforts of the people you ditched for loot. I seem to remember someone comparing you to Lebron James, which is some what accurate, except unlike the Heat TMO would still be exactly where they are now without you. It doesn't matter how good of a raider you are, TMO doesn't need you to win, simple as that. It'd be like if you left the Browns to join the Patriots as a back up kicker, and then talked shit to everyone on the Browns when you beat them.

You know why I don't dislike other people who left FE for TMO? Because none of them are on the forums 24/7 gloating. Retus never did it. Fyrefyst doesn't. Yet you can't help but constantly rub shit in FE's face. You'd probably have friends in FE still if you didn't constantly antagonize them, other people who left FE for TMO still do.

Oh and stop playing the victim. You can't ditch people you claimed to be friends with, talk shit to them, and then be surprised when they get angry with you.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're entitled to an opinion. However, your opinion since leaving FE for TMO has been to make snarky comments and belittle the efforts of the people you ditched for loot. I seem to remember someone comparing you to Lebron James, which is some what accurate, except unlike the Heat TMO would still be exactly where they are now without you. It doesn't matter how good of a raider you are, TMO doesn't need you to win, simple as that. It'd be like if you left the Browns to join the Patriots as a back up kicker, and then talked shit to everyone on the Browns when you beat them.

You know why I don't dislike other people who left FE for TMO? Because none of them are on the forums 24/7 gloating. Retus never did it. Fyrefyst doesn't. Yet you can't help but constantly rub shit in FE's face. You'd probably have friends in FE still if you didn't constantly antagonize them, other people who left FE for TMO still do.

Oh and stop playing the victim. You can't ditch people you claimed to be friends with, talk shit to them, and then be surprised when they get angry with you.

Lol the day she left half of FE was making disparaging comments about her on the forums and in tells.

Who would want those kinds of friends?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're entitled to an opinion. However, your opinion since leaving FE for TMO has been to make snarky comments and belittle the efforts of the people you ditched for loot. I seem to remember someone comparing you to Lebron James, which is some what accurate, except unlike the Heat TMO would still be exactly where they are now without you. It doesn't matter how good of a raider you are, TMO doesn't need you to win, simple as that. It'd be like if you left the Browns to join the Patriots as a back up kicker, and then talked shit to everyone on the Browns when you beat them.

You know why I don't dislike other people who left FE for TMO? Because none of them are on the forums 24/7 gloating. Retus never did it. Fyrefyst doesn't. Yet you can't help but constantly rub shit in FE's face. You'd probably have friends in FE still if you didn't constantly antagonize them, other people who left FE for TMO still do.

Oh and stop playing the victim. You can't ditch people you claimed to be friends with, talk shit to them, and then be surprised when they get angry with you.

Lets try to stay on topic. This is a poopsock thread, not a Cecily thread. We have a few of those in RnF already.

[Cecily]

It's understandable that you'd be upset. FE/IB invested a significant amount of time and effort to ensure that VS pop was theirs. With that many people, it should have been. We laugh our asses off every time (and it's happened alot) we make your collective guild waste its entire week in that boring pit.

You think you're offering a rational alternative, but you're really just throwing a temper tantrum and attempting to get the rules changed.
(See Nizzar's thread)