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Old 05-19-2014, 03:29 PM
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Also resists need to scale lower
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:33 PM
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Juz make it classic. Would be glad to join other RZ vets in that sit down.

Would be happy to test also as we work on it.

Dispel mechanics need a look too. Cancel magic removing anything in 1 shot esta no bueno.
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:38 PM
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Let me tldr the last two pages. Small scale pvp caster vs melee is fine. When it gets to 40+ shit gets retarded
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Also resists need to scale lower
Double quoted your brilliant TLDRs into one post for even easier TLDRs.
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:42 PM
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Just to clarify the guy was referring to 80 seconds of standing still needed for the total damage spell casting time added together. He didn't say it had to be 80 consecutive seconds. Obviously the 80 seconds of casting would be over a longer period of time with movement between casts as well as utility spells that do no damage.
If that is what he meant, he completely invalidates his post.

If you do nothing but cast draught and yonder 1 after another you'll rarely get hit by a warrior outside of boulders.

If you're dying in an outdoor zone 1v1 to similarly geared melee as a wizard on a regular basis you're just bad. At the very least you should be able to flee at will with yonder/gate. Will you get gibbed by a mighty strike our duelist sometimes? Sure. Will they get off a tstaff proc and disc you as a monk sometimes? Sure. But this guy is making it seem like a wizard is going to lose 99.9% of the time.
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Old 05-19-2014, 04:15 PM
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Let me tldr the last two pages. Small scale pvp caster vs melee is fine. When it gets to 40+ shit gets retarded
I personally believe that when its 20-30 people casters get the shit end. When you get 40+ there's so much shit going on that if you're outdoors they are generally going to be fine.

All depends on the player and whether or not they're smart enough to stay off the radar.
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Old 05-19-2014, 04:21 PM
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Just to clarify the guy was referring to 80 seconds of standing still needed for the total damage spell casting time added together. He didn't say it had to be 80 consecutive seconds. Obviously the 80 seconds of casting would be over a longer period of time with movement between casts as well as utility spells that do no damage.
Don't even bother. 1750 posts of nonsense, guy is just a troll.
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Old 05-19-2014, 04:24 PM
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If that is what he meant, he completely invalidates his post.

If you do nothing but cast draught and yonder 1 after another you'll rarely get hit by a warrior outside of boulders.

If you're dying in an outdoor zone 1v1 to similarly geared melee as a wizard on a regular basis you're just bad. At the very least you should be able to flee at will with yonder/gate. Will you get gibbed by a mighty strike our duelist sometimes? Sure. Will they get off a tstaff proc and disc you as a monk sometimes? Sure. But this guy is making it seem like a wizard is going to lose 99.9% of the time.
Yer likely gonna get gibbed cuz they got a SoW pot and yer using jboots.
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:01 PM
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Let me tldr the last two pages. Small scale pvp caster vs melee is fine. When it gets to 40+ shit gets retarded
^^ sums it up nicely
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:21 PM
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Can't compare this server to live kunark as every toon on this server is stupid well geared compared to live. During Kunark on all the PvP servers you were lucky to have 5 or 6 melees geared even close to the average gear people running around with right now.

Also don't cry now that your getting your ass handed to you, it's just bad form~
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:48 PM
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Whole lotta dumb in this post.

Let me start off first by saying that rogues definitely don't always hit for the upper end of their damage table. I very rarely seem to be hitting for the upper end actually, which is why occasionally hectorchrist would run me out of CT back in the day when I would generally give him assrapings daily. Because my backstabs just would all miss or hit for the minimum (backstab definitely never seems to land more than 50% of the time for me on this box).

Wizard 1v1 should be able to utilize levitate and yonder to never get hit by a melee. I took my undergeared 55 wizard into the pvp fight for gorenaire whatever day that was where we stalemated nihilum from engaging all day. Wizard died once when Tune was giving a group of 4 melee in range to me selos just to chase me down, the other time I was able to run a few Nihilum melee around and ended up scoring a kill on a rogue with 40m still.

If your nukes aren't landing well you should either say screw it and just gtfo because they outgear you and you shouldn't be able to win, or call in some help and drop lures when they aren't paying attention to you.
TLDR version - his rogue doesn't do enough damage, and all casters are balanced because he can levitate and yonder in Dreadlands.

Seeing as how I'm a "whole lotta dumb" and I should "gtfo," how about we duel our 55 wizards in Dreadlands? No zoning, loser hands over all droppable gear and deletes character - GM sponsored.

(tons of wannabe PVPers on these forums who would have got curbstomped on a real server like SZ - we'll see how quickly he declines)
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