Please add defiant gear.

[Laugher]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fuck <Defiant>

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[SCB]

Originally Posted by Cistern [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think modern MMO"RPGs" have clouded people expectations of a good MMORPG. It's not about loot guys. Yeah it's cool to get pixels, but that's not what amazed me about EQ.

Modern MMOs are more like "Solo your way to end-game single player then line up for the carrot-on-a-stick loot whoring game!" EQ is about community, teamwork, friendships, and I know this is hard to believe, ROLEPLAYING. You don't have to get all crazy about it, but a little roleplaying is fun as fuck. and you know it. Fuck defiant gear and I'm glad the devs are so adamant on classic issues.

Ive never met a single serious roleplayer on the entire server. The RnF forum alone is proof positive that endgame is 95% composed of rabid lootwhores. Modern MMOs are also about community and friendships. The devs aren't adamant about classic issues - they're adamant about a classic EXPERIENCE (a subtle difference that allows for slight custom rulesets to better enforce a classic "flavor" over true classic play).

All your arguments are silly except one: Defiant gear is a retarded idea on a server that has a thriving population of mixed-level characters.

[Leeyuuduu]

Now would seem a proper time to bring back quartering
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But there won't be quartering, and you know why?
Because horses are post-velious, so fuck you

[Wildino]

Originally Posted by Laugher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Kos ...

[sox7d]

You guys are acting like it would completely break the game.

A warrior in full VP still can't solo sebilis. They're still gonna need a group. All this does is put everyone on the same level so they can just PLAY the game rather than being loot obsessed and spending hours upon hours getting slightly better gear that has a negligible effect on your character.

I love how the people against defiant gear are telling us that "MMOS AREN'T ALL AOBUT GETTING PHAT LEWTZ, GO PLAY THE WOW GEAR RAT RACE."

[iruinedyourday]

eh, i just dont want anything post velious in this project.. but I am lucky because it happens that there are like 4k people (including rogen) that want exactly what I want so woo!

no surprise that everyone isnt on same page tho, heh such is life.

[yorumi]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are acting like it would completely break the game.

A warrior in full VP still can't solo sebilis. They're still gonna need a group. All this does is put everyone on the same level so they can just PLAY the game rather than being loot obsessed and spending hours upon hours getting slightly better gear that has a negligible effect on your character.

I love how the people against defiant gear are telling us that "MMOS AREN'T ALL AOBUT GETTING PHAT LEWTZ, GO PLAY THE WOW GEAR RAT RACE."

By the mere existence of stats, levels, and gear MMOs arn't designed to put everyone on a level playing field. You're asking for a free handout of the best gear that would ever exist in the entire game, and you see nothing at all wrong with this? The reason people are so against this is because this extreme entitlement mentality is exactly what ruined mmos. "gimmie everything free and yesterday just for pressing the login button, whah I hate the fact that I have to earn my gear, why doesn't the entire world revolve around me."

If you want defiant gear go play eq live, it's right there waiting for you. If you want welfare gear handouts go play literally any other MMO on the face of the earth. I promise you gear rains from the sky for no effort. If you don't like a game that requires time and effort to advance your character than classic EQ is not the game for you.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are acting like it would completely break the game.

When it would fundamentally change the pre-50 game (and likely the 50-60 game as well), this is a fair projection

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All this does is put everyone on the same level so they can just PLAY the game

The game doesn't start at level 50

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rather than being loot obsessed

Most of the pre-50 crowd without level 60 mains/alts is anything but this

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and spending hours upon hours getting slightly better gear that has a negligible effect on your character.

Most of these people wouldn't be helped that much by defiant

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how the people against defiant gear are telling us that "MMOS AREN'T ALL AOBUT GETTING PHAT LEWTZ, GO PLAY THE WOW GEAR RAT RACE."

No, they're saying the journey is actually relevant in games like EQ. It really isn't in WoW since WoW truly "begins" at max level. Defiant gear manages to make the game more WoW-like than WoW. That's how colossally bad you've misinterpreted this situation.

Maybe we should eliminate named mobs dropping loot? That makes the game a camp-fest, right? We should make those important pieces of loot the product of a quest line that requires a certain number of faction medallions you earn by grouping in dungeons. Oh, and we're installing NPCs that can automatically group people together and teleport them to dungeon entrances. Just to make the circle complete.

[fastboy21]

in other news, adding defiant gear to p99 is almost as popular as president obama in the middle east.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in other news, adding defiant gear to p99 is almost as popular as president obama in the middle east.

yet still more popular than him in Alabama...