Rules Lawyers: the Myconid Spore King

[Korben]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that depends: is your goal is to obtain pixels or play the game? Camping the king on his spawn point is a great deal of fun and by no means involves nothing for 55/60 minutes.

So starting blankly at am unchanging screen for 55 minutes per hour, knowing nothing at all is going to happen, is better than peeing, working out, eating, etc?

Edit: leaving original reply but didn't see the part about engaging on spawn: why again should we be forced to fight him on his spawn to qualify as 'paying the game', rather than 'requiring more work, players, difficulty, etc' which should be viewed as nothing other than intentionally crippling yourself by ignoring any other tactics

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that depends: is your goal is to obtain pixels or play the game? Camping the king on his spawn point is a great deal of fun and by no means involves waiting around for 55/60 minutes.

"Obtaining pixels" is playing the game.

[bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that depends: is your goal is to obtain pixels or play the game? Camping the king on his spawn point is a great deal of fun and by no means involves waiting around for 55/60 minutes.

I have done it this way and it is fun. I got an idea why don't you wait until the king is not camped and then bring your 6 people or w/e and kill on his spawn point. Why do you have to force people do do things a certain way just because you don't like them. Wait your turn like we do and then you can camp king however you want.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that depends: is your goal is to obtain pixels or play the game? .

What's the difference?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not like he's going to randomly pop during his cycle, why should they be forced to sit attentive at their keys for 60 mins per hour, ready to engage all the nothing that will be coming their way for 55 of the 60 minutes, as long as they're pulling/killing him in a reasonable time after he spawns?

Why? I dont know. If i'm camping something, it is none of your concern what I do during that camp. As long as the main thing you are camping (King) has its PH dead, it's really none of your concern if im doing laundry, homework, or whatever.

I like you Raev, weve talked, but this is the dumbest shit ever man. If you want king, get people there before the others or wait for them to leave, like we do every time we plan on doing the king.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? I dont know. If i'm camping something, it is none of your concern what I do during that camp. As long as the main thing you are camping (King) has its PH dead, it's really none of your concern if im doing laundry, homework, or whatever.

I like you Raev, weve talked, but this is the dumbest shit ever man. If you want king, get people there before the others or wait for them to leave, like we do every time we plan on doing the king.

Where is there?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? I dont know. If i'm camping something, it is none of your concern what I do during that camp. As long as the main thing you are camping (King) has its PH dead, it's really none of your concern if im doing laundry, homework, or whatever.

So camps only need main PHs dead? Sounds fine until someone wants to kill the mobs you purposefully aren't killing.

At which point it becomes your choice whether you elect to start killing said mobs. You elect to leave the camp. You elect to relocate and allow them to kill the mobs they wanted to.

[Erati]

damn I agree with Ella on this

where does the line get drawn?

if someone is duo'ing just the King PH, it is pretty douchey to bring a 6 man crew, leapfrog and set up shop at the spawn.

If the duo is being a dick to everyone tho, they had it coming

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An actual King 'group' of 6 people would kill everything in the jail, brain room, and pull shrooms. What does it matter if 3 people claim the camp and don't feel like killing the other mobs they're entitled to? It's their right to choose which mobs they kill and which they don't for whatever reason. Just because they aren't touching them doesn't mean that someone else is should be entitled to them.

That is their right not to kill mobs, until another group wants to come in and kill those unclaimed intermediate mobs. The first group has a decision: do they want to start clearing them or let the other group clear the untouched mobs. If the king group does not want to clear the intermediate mobs between King and tube room, then they will have to take special precautions on their pull to not train the group now clearing jail.

What are you actually upset about here? If a full group of 6 people claiming king were only killing the king, would that be a problem? What if they camped out in the zone out room and only killed those 3 mobs + king. Would you care if they were killing all the mobs, yet still pulled to the tube room? What if it were 5 people? 4? Where do you draw the line over what is an acceptable amount players that can enjoy the same content for whatever purpose and which mobs you require them kill?

It is not a problem, until another group wants to come in and kill the other mobs being ignored.

Using this logic, a shaman soloing Hiero can prevent another group from killing the rest of crypt just because the shaman could kill the other stuff but chooses not to. A solo/group socking Tranix can prevent people from killing FGs just because they could kill it but choose not to.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using this logic, a shaman soloing Hiero can prevent another group from killing the rest of crypt just because the shaman could kill the other stuff but chooses not to. A solo/group socking Tranix can prevent people from killing FGs just because they could kill it but choose not to.

I think the logic here is moreso, "Does killing the untended mobs materially disrupt the people initially in the camp?". In your example of Hierophant, killing the ICGs, the roaming Ooze, the frog and the other 3 named spawns does not materially disrupt the shaman from camping his Hierophant. In the case of Tranix, a group seeking to kill fire giants while another group is camp-socking tranix would not materially hinder the solo/duo group from their Tranix, in fact, it would even be helpful if someone kept those pesky FGs down!

In the case of the spore king, a group clearing the jail would be disrupting the king camp in 2 ways. One, the king camp, in a trio, requires a bit of a train, which would cause problems for the group in jail when the train comes right through them. Also, the jail group would be spawning see-invis frogs which would disrupt the King pull.