timeline

[Shads]

No!

[guineapig]

So much for following the timeline...

Maybe we'll see Solro soon?

[Ghesta]

I disagree with the idea of speeding things up.

One of my greatest beefs with EQ is how I never got a prenerf mask of the deceiver. I played EQ from bluebox on, for close to seven years. I understand the desire to speed things along when you've gotten to the end, but why penalize the newer players who won't have a chance at such things as rubis, masks, and manastones just because they heard about the server later than you did?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Ghesta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree with the idea of speeding things up.

One of my greatest beefs with EQ is how I never got a prenerf mask of the deceiver. I played EQ from bluebox on, for close to seven years. I understand the desire to speed things along when you've gotten to the end, but why penalize the newer players who won't have a chance at such things as rubis, masks, and manastones just because they heard about the server later than you did?

I am in agreement with you but sadly it's too late now.
They opened Hate over 2 months early and skipped over SolRo for whatever reason.

I really do feel sorry for the newer people who just got to the server who really are the future of the playing population. It's the opinions that you take back to your friends that will effect what the population looks like a year from now.

SolRo would have benefited the vast majority of the population where as opening Hate early has only benefited a few guilds. Even though I am in one of those guilds I still disagree with this decision.

And to be clear I am not trying to be disrespectful to those that run the server, I will always appreciate all the hard work you guys have done and will do. But I do think that this decision was at least in some part made due to pressure from a very vocal minority. In the future I hope that they will not bend to the will of the few.

This is of course just my opinion and I could be wrong. But the fact remains that unlocking Hate at this time goes against both the chronological order of things as well as the relative time span taken between releases of EQClassic and no other explanation has been given as to why. So I am left to assume....

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am in agreement with you but sadly it's too late now.
They opened Hate over 2 months early and skipped over SolRo for whatever reason.

I really do feel sorry for the newer people who just got to the server who really are the future of the playing population. It's the opinions that you take back to your friends that will effect what the population looks like a year from now.

SolRo would have benefited the vast majority of the population where as opening Hate early has only benefited a few guilds. Even though I am in one of those guilds I still disagree with this decision.

And to be clear I am not trying to be disrespectful to those that run the server, I will always appreciate all the hard work you guys have done and will do. But I do think that this decision was at least in some part made due to pressure from a very vocal minority. In the future I hope that they will not bend to the will of the few.

This is of course just my opinion and I could be wrong. But the fact remains that unlocking Hate at this time goes against both the chronological order of things as well as the relative time span taken between releases of EQClassic and no other explanation has been given as to why. So I am left to assume....

/agree

Hopefully they'll slow this train down before we get to the end of the line!

[Spud]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am in agreement with you but sadly it's too late now.
They opened Hate over 2 months early and skipped over SolRo for whatever reason.

I really do feel sorry for the newer people who just got to the server who really are the future of the playing population. It's the opinions that you take back to your friends that will effect what the population looks like a year from now.

SolRo would have benefited the vast majority of the population where as opening Hate early has only benefited a few guilds. Even though I am in one of those guilds I still disagree with this decision.

And to be clear I am not trying to be disrespectful to those that run the server, I will always appreciate all the hard work you guys have done and will do. But I do think that this decision was at least in some part made due to pressure from a very vocal minority. In the future I hope that they will not bend to the will of the few.

This is of course just my opinion and I could be wrong. But the fact remains that unlocking Hate at this time goes against both the chronological order of things as well as the relative time span taken between releases of EQClassic and no other explanation has been given as to why. So I am left to assume....

Yea I agree Chic.

The big thing is that DE mask/Rubi and that stuff is still dropping. This may still help attract players like Ghesta who want a DE mask (I always wanted one on live too).

[Dabamf]

Opening hate harms no one. Shut up. Jesus

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Dabamf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Opening hate harms no one. Shut up. Jesus

Opening Kunark and Velious would harm no one. What's your point? I can see Chicanery's.

[Dabamf]

Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Opening Kunark and Velious would harm no one. What's your point? I can see Chicanery's.

Um...opening kunark harms everyone who wants to enjoy vanilla eq, because it negates a lot of important zones and items. Hate does nothing but add benefit for those with nothing left to do.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dabamf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Opening hate harms no one. Shut up. Jesus

You didn't listen to anything I was saying.
It wasn't about opening Hate...[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It was about speeding things up.

Hate opens early, Air opens early, guess what will be asked for next? You guessed it, raise the level cap to 60. There's only 1 way to do that.
And let's not forget the fact that by unlocking Hate before Solro it basically said that pleasing raid guilds was more important than pleasing the general populous (SolRo).
It's not Hate that ruins things, it's the precedent.