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Old 09-01-2016, 08:57 AM
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?? I was trying to makes heads or tails of your question/statement:



Not sure where you are trying to take the conversation with this. My point was that your characterization of any restriction as anti-libertarianism isn't accurate.
Selling Libertarianism, a school of thought espousing the virtues of liberty (freedom of choice, association, etc.) as a concept "very much about restrictions," (your words) is absurd ^^ Hence, you're being contrarian. It is only concerned with restriction of liberty insofar as that liberty infringes upon the Liberty of another.

The point is, as you restrict Liberty, you become less libertarian ^^
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:20 AM
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^correct.

In other relevant news:
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/31...cks-burka-ban/
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:19 AM
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Selling Libertarianism, a school of thought espousing the virtues of liberty (freedom of choice, association, etc.) as a concept "very much about restrictions," (your words) is absurd ^^ Hence, you're being contrarian. It is only concerned with restriction of liberty insofar as that liberty infringes upon the Liberty of another.

The point is, as you restrict Liberty, you become less libertarian ^^
And how is a libertarian order maintained? Think through how freedom of association will play out when you inevitably have people in conflict in proximity of one another. It will involve restricting people and physically removing them until they decide to "freely associate" elsewhere, e.g. in a different community.

I'd encourage you to read libertarian philosophers who address these issues e.g. Democracy, the God that Failed.
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:11 PM
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Fash gets it with his sweet ass HHH avatar.

ETA: Christopher Cantwell wrote an article earlier this year that really captures my thoughts on the matter.
https://christophercantwell.com/2015...-are-hopeless/
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:54 PM
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And how is a libertarian order maintained? Think through how freedom of association will play out when you inevitably have people in conflict in proximity of one another. It will involve restricting people and physically removing them until they decide to "freely associate" elsewhere, e.g. in a different community.

I'd encourage you to read libertarian philosophers who address these issues e.g. Democracy, the God that Failed.
For sure ^^ and as those tendencies evolve the society becomes less libertarian ^^ I'm not advocating libertarianism, just pointing out the problem with embracing any ideology as an absolute. Deviations from established dogma should not be shameful things that people attempt to mask as conforming. There are many sound reasons to modify an ideal, impracticality among them ^^
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:16 PM
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it is frankly WRONG not to be allowed to wear your Religious Gear. it's like if we were in Felwithe (Paris of Norrath) and the guards said - HEY stop you CANNOT wear the Innoruuk only faction head piece, mr. dark elf. and then arrest you.

what i want is a world where any elf can wear any helmet even if its from a religion who sometimes sacrifices people to create more raw hatred in the known universe.

i thank you for your reading
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:17 PM
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Apparently you've overlooked the fact that worshippers of Innoruuk are killed on sight in Felwithe.
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:22 PM
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Apparently you've overlooked the fact that worshippers of Innoruuk are killed on sight in Felwithe.
So you're saying they should kill worshippers of innoruuk (aka towelies) in Paris?????
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:33 PM
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I think its only fair to warn worshippers of Innoruuk in the event of a policy change, prior to actually killing them.

At that point though, yes I think they should be downed and coined.
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:39 PM
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Ok.


America Is founded on freedom of religion. What is France founded on?
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