Monopolizing Scout in WW...

[kagrobb]

change it to 45 min repop

[Lorglath84]

Originally Posted by Meep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see dead people, but what actually happened there?

We had a misunderstanding of the rules surrounding Scout... We thought that once you turn in you have 20 minutes to actively engage the target (captain), as we thought rule 10 applied....

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Q10: What about a raid mob being indefinitely kited, stalled, or occupied?
A: It is against server policy to indefinitely kite, stall, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of killing it. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stalling of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild/party, is against the rules. Ignorance is not an excuse to break this rule, if you are pulling raid targets, we expect you to know what you’re doing.

But apparently this isn't the case....

in the specific instance above, after we waiting for him stalling 20 minutes we engaged as he was stalling the mob. Sirken came and corrected us on our misunderstanding, and said once he engages he can kite it around forever, until he loses aggro - once mobs aggro is clear, mob is free to engage by anyone.

[khandman]

Scout Charisa is the 'Hyper Sports' equivalent for the 21st century [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Lorglath84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had a misunderstanding of the rules surrounding Scout... We thought that once you turn in you have 20 minutes to actively engage the target (captain), as we thought rule 10 applied....

in the nicest way i can say this, your a dumbass if you think raid rules apply to scout,

[Meep]

Originally Posted by Lorglath84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had a misunderstanding of the rules surrounding Scout... We thought that once you turn in you have 20 minutes to actively engage the target (captain), as we thought rule 10 applied....

But apparently this isn't the case....

in the specific instance above, after we waiting for him stalling 20 minutes we engaged as he was stalling the mob. Sirken came and corrected us on our misunderstanding, and said once he engages he can kite it around forever, until he loses aggro - once mobs aggro is clear, mob is free to engage by anyone.

I take it then the same applies on the South Ro ancient cyclops? Or is that going to be another "misunderstanding"? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like a lot of problems on the server could be solved if we weren't applying different rules to different camps...not to say we need "more rules" but just some consistency.

[Notaa]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your a dumbass

<3 irony

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Lorglath84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had a misunderstanding of the rules surrounding Scout... We thought that once you turn in you have 20 minutes to actively engage the target (captain), as we thought rule 10 applied....



But apparently this isn't the case....

in the specific instance above, after we waiting for him stalling 20 minutes we engaged as he was stalling the mob. Sirken came and corrected us on our misunderstanding, and said once he engages he can kite it around forever, until he loses aggro - once mobs aggro is clear, mob is free to engage by anyone.

Goddamn this is just embarrassing. Anyone involved in situations like the one above who behave in this fashion over pixels, just, I don't even have the words...

I honestly don't know how Sirken and the other guides don't troll the fuck out of people when they go neckbeard-crazy over mobs like this.

I mean, if I seen some dude spend 20 minutes kiting a mob around while a pack of neckbeards follow the kite around counting down in chat channels when they are engaging while others are begging others not to engage it, I'd inexplicably despawn the mob just to see them all go batshit crazy.

This behavior is why the raiding scene is so awful too. Same attitude, same greedy neckbeards involved in that scene too.

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Goddamn this is just embarrassing. Anyone involved in situations like the one above who behave in this fashion over pixels, just, I don't even have the words...

I honestly don't know how Sirken and the other guides don't troll the fuck out of people when they go neckbeard-crazy over mobs like this.

I mean, if I seen some dude spend 20 minutes kiting a mob around while a pack of neckbeards follow the kite around counting down in chat channels when they are engaging while others are begging others not to engage it, I'd inexplicably despawn the mob just to see them all go batshit crazy.

This behavior is why the raiding scene is so awful too. Same attitude, same greedy neckbeards involved in that scene too.

A lot of it would disappear if MQ farmers were told to feck off and people could actually do the quests themselves.

[TheDuck]

this is done at every "needed" piece on p99. people who treat farming like its some kinda job (is it a job? i think we can guess), basically there is absolutely no reason for people to be out at this camp rotating it between him and a few others since velious launch, whats the point.(i think we all know the point), when does he have time to play the alt he is gearing up with all that plat? (bullshit he doesnt have an alt to play).

I dont play anymore, i do enjoy the community though, i started on blue and realized blue is like this all through the game, these seemingly never ending farmers that never leave that camp, and i play 24 hours at a time, for fun. like you know, getting my item and progressing. These people are littered throughout blue and it's like some kind of heirarchy. Depending where u fit in the social status of farmers you are allowed to keep that plat source on farm.

I wish the staff would do something about the obvious plat farmers littered throughout the blue server. Classic was nothing like trying to beat your way through plat farmers, not in the least. if its not jboots, its an epic piece, if its not an epic piece, its scout, if its not scout its the FBSS camp, if its not a haste item camp its something else. the same people have been sitting on the same camps for years.


edit : plat farmers = use imagination.

double edit: forgot to mention, these guys have been on the server long enough to know the landscape, say all the right things when the GM's come around to make sure the the FTE's and camp lists are working correctly. These people repeatedly win out in lawyer quest situations to new players. i remember when i played live, i never had to refer to a rule book constantly, i always went by the "don't be a dick policy". If i didn't know better i'd say u got the perfect plat farming system that takes advantage of new players who need there items but cock block the items thru rules and perma farmers, forcing the new players to farm raw plat to buy the items.

[Whirled]

Pull the plug. That will stop all of this. Maybe come back in 30, 90 180 days or never again. Force the no lifers to get a job, new hobby and make America great again instead of turning them into mindless zombies fighting over imaginary items. Maybe it's too late though. I'd definitely buy any one in charge of this drinks if only for the sheer thought of what they have put up with for years.