SK epic vs other weapons, worth?

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't that exactly what I said? Remember that unless the SK does the parse their lifetap damage won't show up. And I imagine that most decent SKs are not inclined to time their lifetaps between swings just so their 100 man zerg raid can kill a dragon 0.01% faster anyway and instead are busy helping with the pull. But they could if they wanted to!

Not just that, but if folks would remember that the game includes more than just raid bosses, Shadow Knight damage-over-time spells, if stacked up, add about 30 DPS just on their own. It's not sustainable long term, but gives the class decent moderate-duration burst if needed. No, it's not a "DPS class", but it's still a handy capability to have, when needed.

Danth

[Quizlop]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BRING IT XAEOPHI

Also, I think both Knight classes are hugely underrated here. I bet SKs are roughly equal to Warriors both on raids (+15-20 dps from lifetaps if you don't mind medding up afterwards) and for XP (+15-20 dps from the 44th necromancer pet, and don't forget Banshee Aura & Vampiric Embrace taps chipping in). Once the 2H upgrade comes out I guess SKs are closing in on Monks. On TAKP my Monk (17/19+15/18, 3xAOB) would occasionally lose to Rocksmasher SKs nuking hard with a pet.

I don't know about those numbers, but I am pretty sure that Lifetaps have a (non-classic) much higher resist rate here than on TAKP, making them not terribly useful against raid mobs.

[Sonderbeast]

*sensible chuckle*

[drakkan]

Anyways, I completed my epic last night at lvl 53. 2HS skill is only 130 or so, should hit harder and most consistent within a few days. The proc is so nice! It also looks insanely bad ass. Thanks for the replies to the thread!

[Octopath]

Originally Posted by drakkan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyways, I completed my epic last night at lvl 53. 2HS skill is only 130 or so, should hit harder and most consistent within a few days. The proc is so nice! It also looks insanely bad ass. Thanks for the replies to the thread!

Congrats on the epic! Did you mq any of it? Thoughts on the quest? Thanks

[drakkan]

Originally Posted by Octopath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Congrats on the epic! Did you mq any of it? Thoughts on the quest? Thanks

I MQ'd the decrepit hide for 10k and then got the leech from my guild bank (the piece I was waiting on for a few weeks). We had started doing sky again the last 3 weeks, consistently, and got my abrogation blade which I was planning to MQ but turns out I didn't have to. I imagine it would be a bit more nerving trying to double MQ that step with the leech and the abrogation blade, so that was nice I didn't need to.

The quest is definitely manageable. It definitely takes a good bit of help from some people. I got the key off a mimic after requesting a dock group in the hole to pull them. Once I had the mimic key, my guild cleared to the dude in the castle at the hole, which is a pretty short venture into the hole. The tank was a 60 ToV warrior, so it was a cake walk. The crypt part was a bit annoying, I got a group of guildies down there (we jumped into the hole zone in) (shaman, sk, enc, and another dps). We did probably 5 cycles and on the last one before our healer had to leave, he popped, did the turn in and killed the dude. I'll need to do this piece again for my earring and chest piece that I'd like to have as gear.

The leech would not have been as smooth without a high end guild, so my experience with this is a bit uncommon for the average person completing this quest. I also needed to bring out a crew for the final fight. We did it with another 60 warrior, full tov gear, 2 shamans, bard, 3 rogues, a ranger, a monk, a druid for spot heals, only 1 enchanter (he was spamming rune and died when Lhnrac had 50% health, so I was a bit nervous but our tank was a boss) and a cleric..yea. It ended up being a bit overkill but I didn't want to have to do a CR with the entire crew of people that came out to help. A warrior using evasive disc seems to be the way to go so that the mob has less of a chance to perform the 500 dmg proc.

So there's a lot of elements, especially at 53, that I needed help with from guildies or a group, every encounter pretty much requires a group to ensure your success but if you have the right class makeup, a bunch of the fights can prob be duoed or trioed. The quest is pretty hard, or at least time consuming. There's definitely bottle necks, like the decrepit hide, sky sword and the leech. If you don't have a great guild, this epic is very expensive or possibly not within reach. The two hole parts are very doable, just the zone is always pretty dead. If the hole was busy and easy to get groups, that would of been a breeze

The quest was fun because if it's difficulty and the sword is awesome.

[Octopath]

Originally Posted by drakkan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I MQ'd the decrepit hide for 10k and then got the leech from my guild bank (the piece I was waiting on for a few weeks). We had started doing sky again the last 3 weeks, consistently, and got my abrogation blade which I was planning to MQ but turns out I didn't have to. I imagine it would be a bit more nerving trying to double MQ that step with the leech and the abrogation blade, so that was nice I didn't need to.

The quest is definitely manageable. It definitely takes a good bit of help from some people. I got the key off a mimic after requesting a dock group in the hole to pull them. Once I had the mimic key, my guild cleared to the dude in the castle at the hole, which is a pretty short venture into the hole. The tank was a 60 ToV warrior, so it was a cake walk. The crypt part was a bit annoying, I got a group of guildies down there (we jumped into the hole zone in) (shaman, sk, enc, and another dps). We did probably 5 cycles and on the last one before our healer had to leave, he popped, did the turn in and killed the dude. I'll need to do this piece again for my earring and chest piece that I'd like to have as gear.

The leech would not have been as smooth without a high end guild, so my experience with this is a bit uncommon for the average person completing this quest. I also needed to bring out a crew for the final fight. We did it with another 60 warrior, full tov gear, 2 shamans, bard, 3 rogues, a ranger, a monk, a druid for spot heals, only 1 enchanter (he was spamming rune and died when Lhnrac had 50% health, so I was a bit nervous but our tank was a boss) and a cleric..yea. It ended up being a bit overkill but I didn't want to have to do a CR with the entire crew of people that came out to help. A warrior using evasive disc seems to be the way to go so that the mob has less of a chance to perform the 500 dmg proc.

So there's a lot of elements, especially at 53, that I needed help with from guildies or a group, every encounter pretty much requires a group to ensure your success but if you have the right class makeup, a bunch of the fights can prob be duoed or trioed. The quest is pretty hard, or at least time consuming. There's definitely bottle necks, like the decrepit hide, sky sword and the leech. If you don't have a great guild, this epic is very expensive or possibly not within reach. The two hole parts are very doable, just the zone is always pretty dead. If the hole was busy and easy to get groups, that would of been a breeze

The quest was fun because if it's difficulty and the sword is awesome.

Yikes yeah from a casual player who won’t be able to raid much, this is pretty discouraging. Could I pay to mq some of this stuff? I know the leech is at 100k alone.

[stebbins99]

Congrats on your epic!!

[Wickedbane]

Congratulations!

[Issar]

Congrats man!