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Old 04-11-2011, 04:04 PM
Messianic Messianic is offline
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I think it's hilarious to say that any player "needs" anything in this game.
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I'll look into getting it changed to The Secret Order of the Silver Rose of Truth and Dragons.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:07 PM
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NBG is pure stupidity in pickup groups. Going to say it again. Everyone worked on getting that item to drop in the first place.

Just because some random J-hole didn't bother to farm for themselves and has worse gear than I do doesn't mean they should get it just because it's an upgrade for them and not one for me. I still spent time elsewhere to earn my gear, they did not, I'm entitled to a chance at recovering my time invested.

People shouldn't be automatically rewarded for being lazy about their characters. In cases where an item that could sold and used to upgrade 3-4 slots on another character you're just being a complete dick to expect somebody to just give you the item without having a fair shot at it.

I have a farming toon and can make plat to outfit my alts and will likely pass anything thats only worth a few hundred plat to somebody who can make use of it, but that's my decision to do so. If someone in the group wants to roll on it so they can sell it I don't have a problem with it either.

Also, to add to the argument of 'need'. I find myself often 'needing' more strength for carrying loot when I'm soloing then i 'need' the extra HP i get out of my adamantite ring and if I had this ring I'd probably use it just as much or more than my other ring.
I totally agree with this. You could get a character to L60 wearing patchwork and a fine steel weapon and then just waltz into loot camps and make a mockery of other players' hard work via NBG (ok I said 'hard work' but you know what I mean: they took their time to gear up their characters appropriately as they went through the levels).

To me, NBG is an unfair system of loot distribution.

As king of the server I hereby abolish NBG. That is all.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:10 PM
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I think it's hilarious to say that any player "needs" anything in this game.
If we all ran around naked we wouldn't have this problem.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:15 PM
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If we all ran around naked we wouldn't have this problem.
Get naked, start revolution. Got it.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:20 PM
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If we all ran around naked we wouldn't have this problem.
No, but if you consider every non-no drop item a piece of value as opposed to something a certain class "needs" and other classes are just being "greedy" by wanting equal value for their time, you understand why NBG begets abuse.

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Get naked, start revolution. Got it.
I like this idea.
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I'll look into getting it changed to The Secret Order of the Silver Rose of Truth and Dragons.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:24 PM
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No, but if you consider every non-no drop item a piece of value as opposed to something a certain class "needs" and other classes are just being "greedy" by wanting equal value for their time, you understand why NBG begets abuse.
I was being facetious. I'm sure everyone is over this thread already.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:26 PM
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So if this GER isnt an upgrade to the ring that jewelcrafters make why is it selling for so much? Trying to understand the value here...
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:29 PM
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So if this GER isnt an upgrade to the ring that jewelcrafters make why is it selling for so much? Trying to understand the value here...
Value of items in the EQ economy is about a lot more than just how useful or good it is.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:33 PM
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Could you elaborate please?
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:33 PM
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So if this GER isnt an upgrade to the ring that jewelcrafters make why is it selling for so much? Trying to understand the value here...
Value is based on perceived rarity once removed from the game, just like rubicite which is basically fancy fine plate not counting the bp. It is a pretty nice ring for rogues but i would not pay more than 1k for 2 more str.
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