Miscellaneous: Nerf Bowquest 99

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothing was cropped

u can see the 1 rogue there and all weighted axe bow classes

bc its more viable to circumvent the aoe

4 rogues and 2 monks on the parse vs. 3 warriors. Top damage by far was a rogue. We get that you think this is a bug and should be fixed. You've already presented your evidence, or lack thereof. There's no reason to lie to the developers about things that are easily debunked.

"nothing was cropped" (when the photo is 727x607 and you cut off your own UI elements) - who do you honestly expect to believe this gaslighting nonsense?

[Tune]

no one really cares about posts here but i will anyway

Originally Posted by Tigerstyle Wutangfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are two separate issues.

It is unfortunate and makes competition lopsided, but that doesn't mean make melee/caster irrelevant/at a significant disadvantage in group PVP.

Suspend the accounts he uses for training (or by IP) and enforcing boxing - one guy whose friends all ditched him is stoppable with any gear level. Right now he just abuses the rules.

enforcing boxing means you are taking their raids from like 30 to 20 and theres going to be no pvp grp fighting us while the raid is going.

training? wont be any trains unless they bring the mobs, as seen in hate.

Originally Posted by Symbioticforks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The person complaining about this, also has the abandoned accounts of many of the best geared characters on the server.

"Bowquest" allows newer players who weren't around during the uncontested velious PvE to pose a bit of a threat. Heaven forbid!

Also nobody had this level of gear during Velious on live, so I don't mind seeing a few people dieing in pvp versus being nigh invincible with old fully geared ToV characters with maxed out resists.

Killed so many dragons you can ignore pvp? Wow.

point is moot

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4 rogues and 2 monks on the parse vs. 3 warriors. Top damage by far was a rogue. We get that you think this is a bug and should be fixed. You've already presented your evidence, or lack thereof. There's no reason to lie to the developers about things that are easily debunked.

"nothing was cropped" (when the photo is 727x607 and you cut off your own UI elements) - who do you honestly expect to believe this gaslighting nonsense?

bro u had 5-6 weighted axes at CT do I need to post the video?

[Merzenary]

what a bunch of cheaters

[Tigerstyle Wutangfist]

This goes beyond the actions of any one guild. The server turning into tons of ogre/troll war/sks using bowing undermines the spirit of EQ PVP (which is already laughable).

Same is true for the reaper/insta cast pots nerf that is needed.

[Symbioticforks]

The person complaining about this, also has the abandoned accounts of many of the best geared characters on the server.

"Bowquest" allows newer players who weren't around during the uncontested velious PvE to pose a bit of a threat. Heaven forbid!

Also nobody had this level of gear during Velious on live, so I don't mind seeing a few people dieing in pvp versus being nigh invincible with old fully geared ToV characters with maxed out resists.

Killed so many dragons you can ignore pvp? Wow.

[Tigerstyle Wutangfist]

Originally Posted by Symbioticforks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The person complaining about this, also has the abandoned accounts of many of the best geared characters on the server.

"Bowquest" allows newer players who weren't around during the uncontested velious PvE to pose a bit of a threat. Heaven forbid!

Also nobody had this level of gear during Velious on live, so I don't mind seeing a few people dieing in pvp versus being nigh invincible with old fully geared ToV characters with maxed out resists.

Killed so many dragons you can ignore pvp? Wow.

Those are two separate issues.

It is unfortunate and makes competition lopsided, but that doesn't mean make melee/caster irrelevant/at a significant disadvantage in group PVP.

Suspend the accounts he uses for training (or by IP) and enforcing boxing - one guy whose friends all ditched him is stoppable with any gear level. Right now he just abuses the rules.

[Gustoo]

Hey guys these threads are bad don't argue this way in public it makes you look straight up bad.

Respond to "facts" with non sequitur facts for example:

Someone: "Baugi trained me, and said something offensive"
Baugi: "My guild continues to make progress through the most challening PVE content while prevailing in PVP encounters. We are open to any new recruits of superior quality"

Someone and Baugi roles could be flipped depening on who is better at not sounding like a goof ball on a message board.

"You had 3 people doing X"
"No YOU had 4 people doing X and I had 2"
"oh but one of your 2 was counted as one of my 4 so we actually each had 3 since he fought on your side before betraying you!"

It doesn't help guys. I want you to prosper.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Respond to "facts" with non sequitur facts for example

I'll admit that the discussion has devolved into childishness, but this is a bug report thread, not a guild recruitment thread. Responding to false statements with non sequiturs doesn't really help get at the truth of anything.

The claim that bow damage is comparable to a rogue currently and trivializing content is just silly.

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll admit that the discussion has devolved into childishness, but this is a bug report thread, not a guild recruitment thread. Responding to false statements with non sequiturs doesn't really help get at the truth of anything.

The claim that bow damage is comparable to a rogue currently and trivializing content is just silly.

umm with max buffs its quite viable ,

especially if u never need to take an aoe

constant dps never needing to dodge an aoe

lets see some parses

[Gustoo]

I agree, the but bug report has been made and adequately documented. The DPS is easy to calculate and not actually relevant.

It seems like a bug, because people used weighted axes for PVP in rallos times but I don't remember anyone having flying freight-train arrows as you guys are describing.

I think that if you had enough Ogre SKs and Ogre Warriors using weighted axes and bows you could trivialize quite a bit of content just arrow blasting aggro kiting back and forth anything that doesn't summon too much. But that doesn't matter as much as the PVP impact since all PVE is trivial and this won't help enough to kill dragons that red 99 doesn't have enough players to take down.

Yeah it felt like a guild recruitment thread.