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Old 11-27-2023, 05:27 AM
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You keep spamming your taunt button you bad tank �� meanwhile, I will save it to ensure it is ready to use the very second I decide I need it. Of course you never thought about that scenario before because you're bad. You gave 1 use case scenario for taunt and that's it. You've clearly never played a warrior before. Maybe try it and learn some tips on how SKs use our taunt.
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Old 11-27-2023, 10:57 AM
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You keep spamming your taunt button you bad tank �� meanwhile, I will save it to ensure it is ready to use the very second I decide I need it. Of course you never thought about that scenario before because you're bad. You gave 1 use case scenario for taunt and that's it. You've clearly never played a warrior before. Maybe try it and learn some tips on how SKs use our taunt.
You are also unable to explain why spamming taunt is bad. Thank you for conceding and admitting you are wrong via rage post.
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Old 11-27-2023, 11:02 AM
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I think we all need to come to some unspoken agreement here to stop speaking to DSM. I'm usually against the silent treatment for people, but DSM is such an abrasive, childish person who makes the most inane arguments that noone else on the forums make (apart from maybe Zuranthium). I think it's warranted.
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Old 11-27-2023, 11:05 AM
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I think we all need to come to some unspoken agreement here to speaking to DSM. I'm usually against the silent treatment for people, but DSM is such an abrasive, childish person who makes the most inane arguments that noone else on the forums make (apart from maybe Zuranthium). I think it's warranted.
Still trolling? You probably have 85% troll posts in your history now, well over 450 in total. Hopefully one day you will write a post on these forums that isn't childish. I still think you can improve yourself. Please do!
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Old 11-27-2023, 11:10 AM
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Old 11-27-2023, 10:25 PM
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Often times it can be, yes.
I'm not trying to mischaracterize your position. Help me summarize it!
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Old 11-27-2023, 10:35 PM
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Often times it can be, yes.
That specific post is referring to the choice of not using taunt vs. spamming taunt. If you are the type of player who rarely/never uses taunt, then spamming taunt will be statistically better than doing nothing.

I have repeated myself in detail multiple times. I agree that post was more terse, and could have been worded better. But even if you were to take the worst interpretation as me saying "spamming taunt can be better sometimes", that still isn't "spamming taunt is the optimal default/standard strategy". I am really confused as to where you thought you saw me say this.
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Old 11-28-2023, 02:06 AM
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Let's go back to this:

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So in your mind, spamming it and hoping to get the timing right is better than deliberately timing it right?
Often times it can be, yes. It frees up your brain to focus on other things. If you need to save taunt and use it strategically every 30 seconds because the rogue is constantly taking agro, you have bigger issues lol. Saving or spamming taunt is not the problem in this group.

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That specific post is referring to the choice of not using taunt vs. spamming taunt. If you are the type of player who rarely/never uses taunt, then spamming taunt will be statistically better than doing nothing.
You said it was "referring to the choice of not using taunt vs spamming taunt", but the question you answered specifically said "So in your mind, spamming it and hoping to get the timing right is better than deliberately timing it right?"

The question clearly isn't about "the choice of not using taunt". Did you misread that question when you first answered it?
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Old 11-28-2023, 02:18 AM
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Let's go back to this:

You said it was "referring to the choice of not using taunt vs spamming taunt", but the question you answered specifically said "So in your mind, spamming it and hoping to get the timing right is better than deliberately timing it right?"

The question clearly isn't about "the choice of not using taunt". Did you misread that question when you first answered it?
I am not sure why you are getting so hung up on that single post. What is the relevance when I have explained my position in so many different posts now? I already admitted that specific post wasn't worded well. You are basically looking at a single post and ignoring all my other posts. It's very suspicious to be honest.

What is unclear about what I said here?

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As I have stated multiple times, you can use both strategies. Spam taunt until your group needs strategic taunting.

Taunt has a 6 second cooldown and is unreliable. The opportunity cost of missing a single strategic taunt is extremely minimal, especially on a knight who has agro spells.
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I mean, sure, you can spam taunt if you really think that miniscule amount of hate means something, and you think emergencies are unlikely.

If, however, there is an enchanter with a charm, and it's liable to break, it is utterly invaluable for the tank to at least try to taunt it first before committing to aggro spells. That is one such example of why you should keep taunt up whenever you can.

Isn't this obvious? There are also plenty more scenarios where it would come in handy, so keeping it off cooldown, in a dungeon where you're tanking for a group, is the wiser course of action.
The issue is you are putting too much importance on taunt. Taunt isn't reliable enough for you to assume it will work in said emergency situation. A good Knight is going to be watching for charm breaks, and is ready to cast their non-dot agro spells like shroud of hate/shadow vortex. A charm break isn't a very good example anyway, because the pet is going to beeline for the Enchanter on a break. You probably aren't going to be in melee range for taunt to begin with if the Enchanter pet is positioned behind the mob, since you are tanking the mob from the front.
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Old 11-28-2023, 02:35 AM
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I am not sure why you are getting so hung up on that single post. What is the relevance when I have explained my position in so many different posts now? I already admitted that specific post wasn't worded well. You are basically looking at a single post and ignoring all my other posts. It's very suspicious to be honest.
When I brought up that answer, you responded by mis-characterizing the question in a textbook example of gaslighting. You asserted that you were anwering a question completely different than the question you were actually asked. Yeah, I'm a little hung up by someone attempting to gaslight me.

Also, you frequently mention your willingness to admit error. I believe you were in error here, in your mischaracterization of the original question. If you can admit this error we can easily move on, it doesn't have to be a big deal.
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