TMO Wipe with 60 on GORE

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly why I support EQ during expansions like Luclin - PoP - GoD - OoW etc etc. Even Velious to some degree.

The zerg means nothing in these expansions and player skill and organizational skill in raid situations is the highlight.

The only thing hard about EQ is solo leveling, as a ranger.

[Diggles]

solo leveling as a warrior > ranger

[Loke]

I'm going to have to agree with Gwence. Although Kunark was a cool expansion overall, as far as the raid scene went it was just more of the same. I'm not saying NToV or VT were necessarily "difficult". However, going from 32k mobs that can't even really be considered "tank and spank" because they are so fast that tanking wasn't much of a factor to 30 minute fights where tanking, mana conservation and overall strategy played a much larger role certainly favored intelligent players.

I know you guys can sit around all day and talk about how EQ doesn't take skill, but any activity where you're forced to coordinate 50+ people for extended periods of time absolutely allows you to differentiate players (both individually and grouped) from one another. In my opinion, that is where the argument for "skill" in EQ is most relevant.

Also, given that the nature of pretty much every fight right now can be described solely by weighing raid DPS vs. mob health - it is really easy to wipe on an encounter if something happens that adversely affects the raid DPS (such as an entire raid getting hit by a DPS reducing AE). There really are no magical strategies on any of the fights right now - if your raid DPS is above a certain threshold, you will almost always win (the same cannot be said for later expansions, encounters like High Priest in Ssra is a prime example). So wiping on Gore is less about numbers, as aggregate DPS. Whether you have 30 or 60, if your sustainable DPS doesn't reach a certain threshold, you lose.

[Uaellaen]

Originally Posted by Seaweedpimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when gwence uullaen and some other fat fuck rogue ran up while i was camping pained soul and sat on my spawn about 5 feet from where i was?

You fuckers ran up , like runnin on top of each ofther in some leet hax. Then you guys just stopped and sat there.


Anyways grats on that shit, even the GM didnt know what the fuck to do. Well, anyways i got the camp back after two days and you dingleberrys were still there trying to get it. I dont even think you did. That was some wild shit, and i will have no choice but to repay you guys in the same way.

really? you tried to be stealin camps, GM came, you babbled him into a roll, you rolled and lost, i left, the person needing the key piece got it shortly after ... also we came like 3 minutes appart from each others, if you felt that it was "at the same time" your drugs must be awesome to reduce your reaction time to 180 seconds ... keep it going

[Uaellaen]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to have to agree with Gwence. Although Kunark was a cool expansion overall, as far as the raid scene went it was just more of the same. I'm not saying NToV or VT were necessarily "difficult". However, going from 32k mobs that can't even really be considered "tank and spank" because they are so fast that tanking wasn't much of a factor to 30 minute fights where tanking, mana conservation and overall strategy played a much larger role certainly favored intelligent players.

I know you guys can sit around all day and talk about how EQ doesn't take skill, but any activity where you're forced to coordinate 50+ people for extended periods of time absolutely allows you to differentiate players (both individually and grouped) from one another. In my opinion, that is where the argument for "skill" in EQ is most relevant.

Also, given that the nature of pretty much every fight right now can be described solely by weighing raid DPS vs. mob health - it is really easy to wipe on an encounter if something happens that adversely affects the raid DPS (such as an entire raid getting hit by a DPS reducing AE). There really are no magical strategies on any of the fights right now - if your raid DPS is above a certain threshold, you will almost always win (the same cannot be said for later expansions, encounters like High Priest in Ssra is a prime example). So wiping on Gore is less about numbers, as aggregate DPS. Whether you have 30 or 60, if your sustainable DPS doesn't reach a certain threshold, you lose.

^^ this

[Troglodyte]

let me just break it down for you...

your raid leaders and others were caught cheating (perun, acarer, mezeno, etc.)

You've since re-admitted those people back into the guild. So therefore you have no shame when it comes to this.

Many players left TR from the fallout and reputation hit. That's why your numbers have dropped drastically since then. You've tried recruiting players, but since it isn't working too well because your past history of training, re-admitting cheating players, you have:

A. resorted to posting banked loot acquired in the past to sway potential (selfish) apps and to divert attention away from your rep
B. sweet-talked VD leadership into increasing your numbers because of your fear of TMO.

Just stating the obvious :\

[JenJen]

dont forget DA sweet talked VD into helping them out also back in the day, pre- TMO merger

just sayin'

[JenJen]

p.s why so anon? this is a forum for a video game where you interact with people you will never meet dipshit

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by JenJen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dont forget DA sweet talked VD into helping them out also back in the day, pre- TMO merger

just sayin'

not quite the same, but okay.

[Moonface]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not quite the same, but okay.

Stop posting, you suck everytime.