Contest for Reporting 2boxers?

[Danyelle]

That guy on the right is more bad ass than I could ever hope to be. look at his stance and his cool "call the cops I don't give a fuck" expression. He could destroy planets with those guns he calls arms too, and if someone tried to shoot at him he would deflect the bullet with that Xbox-huge watch he has on.

Also beige pants.

[fadetree]

Those pants ALONE could kick ass and take names, no mercy.

[mefdinkins]

Me and a few of my buddies were hoping to get an IP Exception to set up a lan for a weekend or two. You guys all know the deal -- mountain dew, beer, pizza, fulfilling stereotypes, marathon gaming etc. etc.

For my friends and I, Lanning is one of the funnest things about gaming. In a marathon gaming session - I'm sure some of us wouldn't be at our computer 24/7 - with movies or sporting events on in the background, playing drinking games, going to the bathroom etc. However, NONE of US would 'two-box'. One may port, one may unenthusiastically hold down a spawn, one may help PL but none of us would be 'two-boxing'. I'm afraid the mere fact we shared an IP combined with the, sit around, play style of EQ would immediately predispose us towards an appearance of impropriety.

We're afraid to apply for an IP exception to lan now, we fear we might all get banned because we're not all sitting attentively at our comps moving our characters in different directions. We will be fine, doing without a lan, but I do feel for people who want to play with their roommates.

I'm glad two boxers are heavily regulated -- but if IP exceptions are allowed those individuals who are lawfully using them should not have to fear for their account everytime they go AFK for 5 minutes while medding to full.

[username1337]

Originally Posted by necrosaurio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you determine that someone is boxing?

If I run the game in two computers, with one of them going through a proxy server, how would you determine if I am boxing?

You can speak to me on any of the accounts and I can answer.

You ask me to move in different directions at the same time, I can do it.

I have two different IPs.

If I don't keep a char in "follow" all the time, I don't think it is possible to detect someone boxing, unless you train them and watch the reaction.

Confession time: I boxed in P1999 through a proxy a few times, just to check if it was any more enjoyable to do it here than in Live, with the slower pace. I only did it for a few levels (my highest char was 9 or 10 before I gave my gear away and deleted them all) but I never had any issues.

I understand why people box (it makes life a lot easier, specially if you have really spotty play times) but it really destroys the community, why would let someone join you if your boxed duo or trio can take on anything?

Personally, I don't box anymore (I hardly ever play here anymore, although I am trying to get back into it) because it just doesn't make sense. The game is not enjoyable boxing and missing the social aspect. Yes, even soloing has a social aspect: if someone comes around, I will buff them. That won't happen if you're boxing and paying attention to two boxes.

GMs: Feel free to ban me, as I think that it would only be fair. If you PM me, I will give you my account names.

I guarantee that at least 1/4 to 1/2 of EC are boxed characters behind proxies or other means of masking boxing. Not hard if you've spent anytime asking people how much a specific item costs and waiting 30 seconds for a reply. It happens too frequently and with too many people to be coincidences of "tell hell" or "afk".

[Galaa]

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Log off if you're going to AFK a long time.. simple enough... don't give them any reason at all to suspect you of boxing.

nothing to do with the topic of boxing, just like to mention that personally I never logoff when Im going to AFK. I always spend all my mana when soloing, and then I just find a safe spot to AFK instead of logging off, so that when I come back from AFKing, my mana will be full.

My AFK timing varies, from 5mins to even 30mins, as I tend to play my console games while AFKing LOL.

So AFKing or not, this isnt the correct way to determind whether a person is boxing.

[Fultun]

Originally Posted by Galaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothing to do with the topic of boxing, just like to mention that personally I never logoff when Im going to AFK. I always spend all my mana when soloing, and then I just find a safe spot to AFK instead of logging off, so that when I come back from AFKing, my mana will be full.

My AFK timing varies, from 5mins to even 30mins, as I tend to play my console games while AFKing LOL.

So AFKing or not, this isnt the correct way to determind whether a person is boxing.

I do the same thing when soling, I will kite some mobs around use up all my mana, then sit in a corner and put my feet on the desk and watch TV while my mana regens, sometimes 20-30 mins will go by before I look at my PC screen again if something cool is on TV. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stepson hates it, and will end up texting my phone if I don't reply to him after a few minutes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Orruar]

Burn all the witches!

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by Radiskull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mojoz Man, your posts are the most painful thing to read since Visage. Those aberrations you call a post almost made Funkiesharkfin posts seem relevant, but at a second glance... Flunkernoodle still only posts garbage.

Box on the server if you want, you will get caught. Best advice I'd give is don't keep anything valuable on toons you're boxing (I'm a pro). Know the consequences and be able to live with them. The poster talking about him and his wife PLing in OoT is 100% fiction. GMs can't be guessing when they're banning someone for two boxing, just because we don't know how they do it doesn't mean they're doing it wrong. Better luck next time.

Oh look its a guido sock puppet.


still mad about that one time i didn't want to exp with you I see.


Quite the high horse too about "garbage posts" I think you have had one informative post on the the entire forum to give some knowledge back to the community.


The rest are trolling or calling people stupid. So go on and hate anonymous TMO sock puppet.

[tristantio]

I wonder how many people caught 2 boxing were running both accounts on the same PC and still trying to say it was a wife or roommate playing.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by Galaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothing to do with the topic of boxing, just like to mention that personally I never logoff when Im going to AFK. I always spend all my mana when soloing, and then I just find a safe spot to AFK instead of logging off, so that when I come back from AFKing, my mana will be full.

My AFK timing varies, from 5mins to even 30mins, as I tend to play my console games while AFKing LOL.

So AFKing or not, this isnt the correct way to determind whether a person is boxing.

It's not the correct way but I'm sure certain behavior seems more suspicious than others.


Like somebody with an IP exemption that only ever power levels alts would be a bit suspicious. (not saying guilty)

or somebody with an IP exemption that only ever camps dragons and is at a camp 24 / 7


or somebody who only ever ports and afk's at EC tunnel.


Somebody with an IP exemption would most likely want to play with their friend / wife / significant other... not hang out in a tunnel all day, or watch a dragon camp all day while the other is out exping.


Do I think people are wrongfully banned? Yes, I do.

Do I think it's possible to get the bans reversed? Yes, I do.


I think what this thread has shown most is that power leveling your IP exemption account with another account on the same IP is suspicious.

Could take steps to avoid that... maybe some way to warn the staff

"Hey, Imma be leveling up my wifes alts.. and she is right here!!!"

I doubt it would be a very common occurrence for most people with IP exemptions.


If that isn't a possibility just remember that playing with an IP exemption places you under heavier scrutiny than most players and just pay somebody else to power level you or level up normally.

Shouldn't be as much of a grind playing with a good friend either way and enjoy the leveling up.